Attn: Renegade I owners

What the heck is a Wiki? Is it contagious?

 

My april of 71 model does not have any of the Renegade I or Renegade II, stuff however it is painted from the factory with Riverside orange that was set up for the RII of 71, (however the paint code says 226 President red) it also had the SW gauges factory original in the dash (I tossed them 13 years ago) has the 6 wire plug and had the resistor for the SW gauges on the firewall, however these are the only things that match the Renegade stuff. So they could be ordered or added at the dealer to a certain degree on a regular Jeep. The resistor on the firewall is why my alternator and amp gauge did not work right when I installed the 1 wire setup and mine is now installed under the dash as the wire for the fire wall mounted one was clipped when I got the jeep so the shop installed it under the dash (it was easier).
Man this was a huge can of worms you opened Beeser

 

Steve a wiki is just jargon for a data base (of sorts) and besides, our wonderful webmaster and good friend spent most of his Sunday making it happen. Show a little respect please.

 

Oh, sorry. I meant to say what is a Wike Sir? Thanks for putting it together Sparky. I'll take a look at it a little later.

 

I get it now. First I've heard of it.

 

Got me stumped on your '71 model with the Riverside Orange and 226 paint code. Again, it's not so much the resistor that makes for a good R1 test but the wiring harness, which I believe would be much more difficult to duplicate. It can be done but why would anyone go through all the trouble? The wiring connector is the same (I believe) regardless of the harness type.

Don't blame me entirely for opening a can of worms on this one. Billy has been giving me pointers on how to stir up trouble.

 

My wiring harness has the resistor and the 6 wire plug with the wires in the harness, just exactly like you described, all factory.

 

Let's not loose sight of what the R1 was to Kaiser/AMC. This was a turn from farm implement to SUV really. Marketing. R1's were more or less a test bed for what was to become the 71's and quite possibly a something to juice up the shares in the company.

No?

 

Exactly

 

I'm not disputing what the RI meant to them. I guess the RI may have been the 1st to use this harness and then possibly all 71 models had it, I don't know, its just that these vehicles have always been such a mismatch of parts that its hard to nail anything down for sure!! Just like my paint and trim code being completely intact and saying it is Presidential Red when infact 95% of the paint is still on the Jeep and definately Riverside Orange and its never been touched, along with the fact that mine had the SW gauges from the factory but no other options other than a dash light.

 

Thanks Sparky.

I'll get on it tomorrow.

 

Brad,
Thanks for setting this up. I start filling out my info when I get home. I'm also going to try and contact Jeep and see if any records exist with VIN's ordered under RI/RII codes. The RII's should be easy since 600 were build and then sold verses RI's which were orderedthen built, from what I can tell.
Robert

 

Not a can of worms - instead "useful discussion."

Personally I think you'll have a hard time nailing this down to "in" or "out" when the history of the vehicle is unknown, but I could be wrong. Getting a few vehicles into the registry will help a lot in comparing these features between vehicles.

Jim asked if the gauges continued into the intermediates - yes - they were also on the regular option list, ie part of the Renegade package but available separately. Was this not the case before '72?

 

Never thought about this before but I suppose that even if a Jeep was built with the Renegade package it didn't necessarily preclude other options from being added by the factory? (Note question mark)

 

The only thing I can ad as to the fleet service thing is that my CJ-6 started out as a Border Partol rig in the Salton Sea area. I already removed the overhead light flashers from the pass. fender and switch panel housing from under the dash. Both were obviously added sometime after the rig was built.

I just assumed the frame boxing, springs, and other stuff was done by their maintenance crews after figuring out what the weak points of these vehicles were. I was just suprised to see the same stuff in the photos earlier in this post.

I'll cram a sock in now since I'm not a real Ren. owner. Enjoy your detective work. Good info. It's interesting.

 

me neither.....nor are the majority of Jeep CJ owners
it's just fun to stir it up

okay, here is some more nifty info......
I was looking up a dash panel for another fellow Jeeper
and lo and behold....
there is no dash listed for the Ren models......until 1972 1973
this is in regards to the amp oil gauges in the dash
sooooo......does this mean the dashes were getting changed in readiness for the 1972 models ??????
otherwise, if replacement were needed, dealer would have to drill the gauge hole openings
and the padded dash is NOT model specific for the Ren as well
comments?