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putting axles and springs under frame, need advice

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Rondog, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. Nov 30, 2010
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    OK, I'm almost ready to put my axles and springs on my frame, and I need to start developing a plan. What's the best/easiest/safest way to do this?

    Tires & wheels on the axles, or no?

    Attach springs to axles first, or no?

    Attach springs to frame hangers first, slide axles onto springs and attach, then raise whole mess up and install shackles?

    Assemble axles, wheels, and springs all together, and lower frame down onto the assembly?

    I have a 3-ton floor jack, an electric hoist overhead, 8 jackstands, roller wheels/tires, and all the parts, so I'm ready to go. Just need to know the best way to do it. I can raise the axles up to the frame, or lower the frame down to the axles. Working solo too, have everything I need except extra hands.

    Suggestions, brethren?
     
  2. Nov 30, 2010
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd probably do this. Put wheels on the axles and roll them into place.
     
  3. Nov 30, 2010
    timgr

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    I think I'd put one end of the frame up on jack stands, wheels on, and put the floor jack under the third member. Unbolt the u-bolts on one side and raise the axle off the spring. R&R the spring, then lower the axle onto the spring. Install u-bolts. Repeat for each corner. I might take the wheels off in pairs after I put the frame on stands.
     
  4. Nov 30, 2010
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think there's anything to unbolt. It's still apart.
     
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    timgr

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    Oh. :coffee: :oops:

    Then I'd probably assemble the springs to the axles with the wheels on and roll the assembly under the Jeep.
     
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    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That'll work, too. I'd leave the u-bolts loose though until I got the hanger end of the spring installed. It'd be hard to bolt the springs to the axles "square".
     
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    jpflat2a

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    that's how I do it
     
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    Rondog

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    Yeah Tim, frame is bare nekkid. Guess I didn't mention that.

    So, general concensus leans towards either springs on frame in the hangers, and roll the axle w/wheels onto the springs, OR complete assemblies axle/wheels/springs, and lower the frame down onto it? That sounds reasonable, just wasn't sure if there's a "correct" way to do it.
     
  9. Nov 30, 2010
    54cj3b

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    I would hang the springs than roll axles under
    a lot easier if you are doing it by yourself
     
  10. Nov 30, 2010
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Correct/safe is it - both work. I do it the way Patrick does as I use my hoist and just roll the axles and tires under inside springs. Attach both ends of the springs, put U bolts on with axle hanging on springs for a good tight fit and to make sure the pin is in right. When it's done, settle that end and repeat on the other end.
     
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    Glenn

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    Either way will work and take relatively the same amount of effort, since you have to do a bit of manhandling to get things to line up.
     
  12. Nov 30, 2010
    Patrick

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    Like I said though, if you put the springs on the axles first, don't tighten the u-bolts until you get the springs in the hangers and shackles .
     
  13. Dec 1, 2010
    Rondog

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    Well, yeah, that makes good sense. Guess I'll just wait until the moment arrives, and see how much room I actually have to work with. I may not even have the space to put the springs on the axle first, I might have to hang them on the frame and roll the axle in.

    Anyway, I've learned that putting the wheels on the axles first is a good thing, either way I go! That Harbor Freight electric hoist is gonna pay for itself, again. Sure glad my garage has a steel I-beam across the ceiling.
     
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    supertrooper

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    i couldnt get my jeep high enough to roll the axle in with the wheels on. ended up bolting one end of the spring to the hanger and the shackle end laying on the ground. me and my cousin grabed each side of the axle and set in on the spring center pins. then we put the ubolts and spring plates on and jacked the hole thing up and bolted up the shackles.
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  15. Dec 3, 2010
    Posimoto

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    That's pretty much how I do it. :iagree:
     
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    Rondog

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    I'll most likely be able to put the wheels on and do the same process, I have an electric hoist in the garage that'll lift the frame high enough.
     
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    Patrick

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    'Course, I usually just put the Jeep on the hoist and raise it to a nice level, maybe even set the axle on the tranny jack..:D
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