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Help identify this T18

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by spud, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Aug 4, 2010
    spud

    spud Nope..it's not finished!

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    I found this T18/D20 combo in NJ for $500. I'll be putting it in my '75 CJ with the 360. These two pics are all that I have right now. Its 5 hrs away and I don't want to make the trip unless I can confirm which T18 it is.

    What else should I ask him for?? Input shaft length and tooth count, bellhousing type and what it came out of???

    What else??
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  2. Aug 4, 2010
    bkd

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    gear ratio....is it 4.01 or 6.32 ???.........Ford T18 have the pto port on the pass side....Jeep T18 had the pto on the drivers side......bell housing will fit your 360???
     
  3. Aug 4, 2010
    timgr

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    Ok, it's a T-18 and Dana 20. The TC shifter is CJ, roughly 1974 or later. Hard to tell much more, except that I believe it is not from an intermediate Jeep, since it seems not to have a plate adapter between the bell and the transmission. So this could be a Ford transmission that has been adapted to the D20, or it could be a Jeep CJ transmission with either a 4.02:1 1st (1976) or a 6.32:1 1st ('77-79). The transfer case has a tag - if the transmission has a tag, we could identify it by the part number, 535xxxx. An intermediate transmission will be 999636.

    Look at the PTO port location to ID a Ford T-18; all Fords are 6.32:1 1st gear.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2010
    timgr

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    Also, the trans-TC adapter looks factory Jeepish... so I would guess it's not a Ford T-18.

    The bell is kind of odd looking ... but somebody here may be able to look at it and ID it (Nick?). You need to make sure it was not mated to an oddball engine like the early 232 (from a J-truck). The TC and shifter is clearly CJ though ...
     
  5. Aug 4, 2010
    nickmil

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    If you can post a pic of the bellhousing where it mates to the transmission I could pin it down closer. Based on the pics shown it's either a Ford T-18 using the T-150/176 bellhousing or a '76-'79 CJ T-18. Does it have a long skinny pilot on the input shaft for the pilot bushing to ride on or a short stubby one? A pic of the pilot on the input would be helpful as well.
    Bellhousing looks AMC to me. The shifter top indicates a later model T-18 with reverse back towards the rear instead of the earlier models with reverse towards the dash.

    If either one of the ones I mentioned is correct it will bolt to an AMC V-8 or I-6 no problem as long as it's not the earlier 232 bellhousing pattern Timgr mentioned.
     
  6. Aug 4, 2010
    spud

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    Excellent guys, I'll get that front view shot of the input shaft and post it.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2010
    spud

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    I spoke to the guy and he said it cam out of a CJ7. Lucky me!!!

    Here's the cell phone pic he sent last night. I think a better picture will be coming later today.
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  8. Aug 5, 2010
    nickmil

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    That looks like the long pilot I was talking about. Should have come from a '76-'79 CJ-7. Be aware that in '76 there were 4.02-1 versions used and in late '76 or early '77 they went to the 6.32-1 version so I'd make sure which it is.
     
  9. Aug 5, 2010
    timgr

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    I expect the only way to identify the 1976 transmission is by the tag number, by pulling the top off and counting the input gear teeth, or by counting the number of input turns to one output turn.

    If you post the tag number - 535xxxx - I can tell you what the ratios are.
     
  10. Aug 5, 2010
    spud

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    Thanks guys, the owner did the input/output check. 6.32to1 I win!!!!

    We'll confirm with the tag number when the picture arrives.

    :tea:
     
  11. Aug 5, 2010
    lynn

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  12. Aug 12, 2010
    Juday

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    I need to run across this exact same setup....:(

    Nice find!
     
  13. Aug 12, 2010
    DrDanteIII

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    Where in jersey?

    I could check it out for you, maybe. Or we can meed up for a begerage when you come to get it.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2010
    unclebill

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    from the sounds of it
    you dont need anymore meeding for begerages right now.......:rofl:

    j/k
     
  15. Aug 13, 2010
    DrDanteIII

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    I see what you mean... lol

    A few Belgian ales on an empty stomach will do that.
     
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    teehee
     
  17. Sep 28, 2010
    spud

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    Hey Tim, no tag on the tranny. Casting number on drivers side above the pto plate says, 13-01-065-908 with Borg-Warner directly below it.

    Update:

    Here are the pics I took for ID purposes.
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  18. Sep 28, 2010
    Chuck

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    As Tim mentioned the tranny-t-case adapter looks Jeep. The tranny top cover looks to be CJ 79. Check to see if reverse is over and up (76 1/2-78 ), or over and down (79 and Ford).
     
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    0IIII0

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    If it's a 6.32, then it would be a T-18A, used by Ford.
     
  20. Sep 29, 2010
    nickmil

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    Uh, '77- '79 CJ's used the 6.32-1 version. That's what he has by the pics shown. Waggy's and Pickups also used the 6.32-1 version.
     
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