'62 CJ-5 Build

Ok, so it's the same pic from my initial post, but I wanted to start a build thread to keep everyone up to date.

Here is my plan, as it stands right now, but it always subject to change:
- Rear axle: Full width Ford 9", 5.13s, mini spool, and 31 spline axles
- Front axle: Full width Ford 9" with D44 inner-Cs and outers, 5.13s, and mini spool
- Engine: 4.2L from an '84 CJ
- Tranny: T-4 from an '84 CJ
- T-case: D300 from an '84 CJ
- Springs: 2.5" lift packs from an '89 YJ
- Shackle inversion
- Flat fenders
- 37s or 38s
- Cross-over steering
- Radiator, steering column, gauges, engine accessories, etc.. from the '84 CJ that the driveline is coming out of
- Full cage to protect me, my wife and our daughter
- Front and rear winches
- Full harness from Painless
- Repair the tub

Going to try to keep it as low slung as I can.

That's pretty much it for now.

Here are my starting pics. I haven't done anything except trailer it to my shop. I haven't even cleaned it out yet.

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

You might have a little problem fitting a strait 6 in there. How about a V-6?

 

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Well, I thought I would have issues, but I went out an measured, and if I slim the grille down on the backside, I will have enough room, as long as I run an electric fan.

The only reason I'm going to try and use the 4.2L first is because I already have it and I know it already runs. If it doesn't work, then I'll try a V-6.

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

I tested a 75 CJ5 with the 258, and I could have jumped between the fan and the rad, a 75 and a 66 shouldn't be too far of in specs, not until 76, correct? It shall fit.

 

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I barley got my V-6 in there with electric fans. I even put the radiator over the front crossmember.:?

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

2'r not a 5'r I stand corrected Learned something new today R)

 

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....use a grille/radiator off a seventies postal jeep they came with a 232 and were modded to fit. I'd forget the T4 it won't last long with big tires maybe a 176 it'll bolt in in it's place. I like the 9" Ford idea bet they'll be 'spensive....

 

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The axles are going to be the easiest part. I have a ton of full width ford 9"s sitting in the shop, so all I need to do is turn one of them into a front axle (inner Cs and knuckles, etc.).

Based on what everyone is telling me, I better go do some measuring again.

So the T-4 is junk huh? Can you beef them up or are you just stuck with what it has stock?

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

most folks will say yes,I ran one behind a 305 sbc, I guess just didn't know any better at the time, that was in the early eighties and it had stock tires. The T176 is probably a better option and to keep everything bolted together without adapters.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/t4_t5.htm
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/t176.htm

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

You could always use a world class T5. It's the bearings in the standard T5 that are the problem. The WC fixes this issue. Not the cheapest solution though.

JD7 is right about the postal grill. It comes out forward more for that exact reason. So they could fit the straight 6 in there with the short hood. I even have an extra one around here if you go that route.

T-176 is definitely a way stronger trans but the gear ratios leave alot to be desired. You are then stuck with the Dana 18 or 20 transfer case which again is a way worse gear ration than the Dana 300. That might not be a big issue though with 5.13s.

 

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Ok, so just for curiousity's sake, what would you want for that grill that you have?

 

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Say $35 and shipping. I'll shoot you a pic if interested.

 

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Even the WC t5 is not capable of holding up to rough use. A friend of mine had one that lasted less than 3 months from hard wheelin with a 304 and 33's along with 4.56 gears. It was not repairable when it broke either. The t176 doesn't have to bad a ratios, its not a granny geared 4 speed but its respectable.
1st - 3.52
2nd - 2.27
3rd - 1.46
4th - 1.0

 

Re: '66 CJ-5 Build

Roger that. I apologize.

Those ratios don't sound too bad. I'll have to check into that tranny instead of the T-4

 

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I can't edit the thread title now, but I found out (through the help of members on here) that my CJ is a '62, not a '66.

Going to start pulling the '84 apart this week and try to start making patch panels for the '62.

 

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Today was a good progress day. Got the tub off of the '84 donor CJ-7. Got the frame set on jack stands a leveled out. Hung the YJ 4" lift springs on the rear of the CJ frame and mocked the rear Ford 9" into place. Decided after seeing it that SOA was higher than I wanted, so right now I'm leaning towards SUA. Got the front Ford 9" mocked into place also.

I'll snap some pics tomorrow and post them up

 

Ok, so I came across a deal for an NP435 with a 6.69:1 first and it already has the Advance Adapters bellhousing and I would be able to bolt an IH D300 right to it. (to use a Jeep D300 would need another adapter which is right around $525). Would that be worth it or is the weight gained going to do me more harm than good?

Also, here are some pics of the frame. I apologize for the poor lighting, but it's overcast this morning and my shop is kinda dark.

The first pic is the overall '84 CJ 7 donor frame. We aren't going to shorten it until we have the '62 tub ready to set on it for measuring.
The second pic is the rear Ford 9" hung SOA
The third pic the front Ford 9" in a custom housing. I still need to make main hangers and rear shackles.

 

Can you still get all the 4.1 kits/twin sticks/32 spline out put shaft for the IH 300s?? If you dont go the 435 direction, a couple of guys from the shop here run 176s with a 4.1 in the d300 behind it and love the ratio selections. When I was measuring out for my engine swap, my 360 if I remeber corrctly was 1-2" shorter front to back than an inline 6, and I still had to cut the firewall back ~3-4", and the cooling fan space is VERY small/limited.