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Buick 225 V6

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by willysCJ2A, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. Mar 6, 2004
    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    Hi I am just about done rebuilding a buick 225 V6 motor. I just need to find the "fuel pump drive eccentric" and the "distributor drive gear" that are on the camshaft. I have had not luck at finding those part anywhere and once i have those I can start up the motor. If you know some where or someone i could find those parts from I would be very grateful. Thanks for the help!
    Stephen
     
  2. Mar 6, 2004
    michigan_pinstripes

    michigan_pinstripes I'm not lost, I'm wandering

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    Welcome aboard! Get ready for a bunch of welcomes and and bunch of "where's the pics?" :D If you would, update your location in your profile and toss in a pic of your Jeep!

    Hopefully someone will have the parts you are looking for as I only have a complete unit. Dist parts can be a challenge to find.
     
  3. Mar 6, 2004
    Tony T

    Tony T New Member

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    Look into the holes that mount the fuel pump and distributor to see the eccentric and drive gear, respectively. The eccentric is just another lobe ground onto the camshaft which accentuates a "lifter like" rod that pushes the mech. fuel pump arm in and out. The drive gear is a helical gear machined near the front end of the camshaft. Be careful that when you install the distributor that it also engauges the oil pump dive at the bottom of the distributor shaft, e.g. the cam drives the distributor which in turn drives the oil pump.
     
  4. Mar 6, 2004
    oldjeep

    oldjeep Sisyphus at work

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    If the gear and eccentric of of a 231 will work, I've got one.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2004
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    you can try a GM dealer with these part numbers:

    1361789 fuel pump eccentric
    1361749 for dist drive gear
    HTH
     
  6. Mar 6, 2004
    dauntless_powered

    dauntless_powered SUB Chief

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    welcome, got pics?
     
  7. Mar 6, 2004
    James P. Enderwies

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    Jim: I've been wondering about this for a while and figured that I'll ask now. In all the cams I've put into Chevys (a lot) the fuel pump eccrentic and dist drive gear were machined in, and part and parcel of, the cam itself. Like Tony T said. They were not separate parts that mounted on the cam. Are the :v6: different in this respect? :?
     
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    James P. Enderwies

    James P. Enderwies Sponsor

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    willysCJ2A: Forgot my manners. :oops: Welcome from Havasu. Let us know where you hail from. As you can probably tell, we all have questions, and someone always has an answer. :)
     
  9. Mar 6, 2004
    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the responses. Are those parts numbers for a 225? that just seem to easy :shock: if so that would make things so much easier and relieve the stress of having to find it. Also I need to know how to get a picture up for me. Could someone tell me how to do that. Thanks for all you help. This site is outstanding!
     
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    James P. Enderwies

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    willysCJ2A: Well, well. I just moved here 2 1/2 years ago from Encino. 1/4 mi N of Ventura behind Encino Hospital. I go back about 4 times a year for family visits and stay with my former next door neighbor. Used to work on Chalk Hill above Taft.

    About pics, read Forum Help and Testing.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2004
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    Welcome fom TN. These guys like pics! Some one with a better grasp of it is done will chime in soon I'm sure.
     
  12. Mar 6, 2004
    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    oldjeep, I am looking into seeing if those part for the 231 will work. If so I am very interested if I cannot get the parts from the parts # from the GM dealer.
     
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    oldjeep

    oldjeep Sisyphus at work

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    I just took a look at it and they won't. On the 231 parts I have 1985 231, the gear is part of the timing gear which bolts to the camshaft with 2 bolts. It is very different than the 225 piece. Maybe on an older 231 they are the same, but definitly not on the one i have

    Sorry, but if you put a post in the wanted section, I'll bet someone can help you out.
     
  14. Mar 6, 2004
    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    jpflat2a, I called buick and they said 1361789 was a good # but 1361749 was a bad # got any ideas?
     
  15. Mar 6, 2004
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Welcome to the board Stephen.
    First thing is you can use the eccentric and drive gear from a 231 odd fire but the even fire had the gear machined on the cam.
    You should be able to call Leon Rosser Jeep in Bessemer, Alabama, if he doesn't have any in stock he should be able to get one or tell you where you can get one. You can also check TA Performance they are Buick specialists and will have them in stock I'm sure. They are located on the web, just type in TA performance and check them out.
     
  16. Mar 7, 2004
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Not surprising that the one number might be discontinued. Other members here have other great ideas. Just keep looking and trying; you will come up with them sooner or later.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2004
    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    James P. Enderwies, Hey Jim, I am very close to where you used to live. I am actually moving up to Oregon this summer. Havasu is also a really nice place to. Thanks for the help!
     
  18. Mar 7, 2004
    yancy

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    :v6: JUST USE ELECT PUMP
     
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    willysCJ2A

    willysCJ2A New Member

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    yancy, Hey whatis Elect Pump? What does that do diffrent?
     
  20. Mar 7, 2004
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Electric fuel pump.

    Do a search, plenty of info here on 'em.
     
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