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Rims to clear Disc brakes.

Discussion in 'Jeepster Commando and Commando Tech' started by larrylunk, Aug 15, 2007.

  1. Aug 15, 2007
    larrylunk

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    I am going to preface this post with a statement. Yes, I did search previous post for wheels and rims and came back with thousands of hits. I converted my 71 commando to disk brakes and the original rims will not clear the calipers. I purchased from Discount tire some rims that will fit. The offset is wrong and to be honest they are ugly. I would like to go with a steel wheel that the original hub caps will fit. I have gone through the mountain of wheels at the local pull-a-part. What I am finding is the center whole is huge, to find a rim that has the large center hole to clear the front hub has a six or eight bolt pattern. So bottom line is does any one know a “stock” looking wheel with the standard off set, so the rear wheels don’t rub? Thanks.
     
  2. Aug 15, 2007
    jayhawkclint

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  3. Aug 15, 2007
    timgr

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    What about rims from a '77-86 CJ? These had disk brakes. The center hole and bolt circle are right, and I think the same wheel was used on the '72-73 Commando. so it should fit under your fenders.

    Somebody in CO should be able to help you out with sources or some factory intermediate-late CJ wheels.
     
  4. Aug 15, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    What Tim said about the stock CJ wheels, I think they've been suggested in the past here before.

    From experience the 16" wheels clear 11" drums, they may clear disk brakes.
     
  5. Aug 15, 2007
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Larry - I have tons of wheels out in the 'storage yard' at the house. If you have some measurements, I could do some checking for you and see if we can come up with a match.
     
  6. Aug 16, 2007
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Ford Bronco wheels should fit as well, and should have about the right backspace. The early ones are probably just like the Jeep, bu the later ones, say 73 - 77 (or maybe even later) should be OK.
     
  7. Aug 17, 2007
    larrylunk

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    I would like the OEM look and a basic steel wheel nothing fancy. Thanks for all the info from everyone.The trip to the junkyard opened my eyes. there were many wheels with the right bolt pattern, bu the center hole is ~ 4.25 inches in diameter. Many of the ford rims seemed big enough but measuring the where small.
    Thanks .
     
  8. Aug 21, 2007
    Hurstjeepster

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    I know 70s model 15-inch CJ Renegade "mag" wheels will work and were sometimes added on by dealers. Brian G.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2007
    sparky

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    I don't think the aluminum wheels fit this description. ;) But yes, you're right, they should clear the calipers.
     
  10. Aug 21, 2007
    w3srl

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    16" Jeep rims will NOT clear the GM calipers. AMHIK. :oops:

    Tim is correct, you need the OEM rims from a 77-up CJ, since they cam ewith disk brakes from the factory. They are getting hard to find, but they can be had if you are willing to look for a while. I ended up paying I think about $75 bux for 5, btu they didn't all match exactly. I ended up with two matchign pairs and one oddball, but once the center caps are on you'll never know the difference. ;)
     
  11. Aug 21, 2007
    jd7

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    ....scout also and some earlier dodge and ford, needs 4 1/4" center hole, I've used 5 on 5 1/2" ford wheels and turned the center to the right dimension on a lathe...
     
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  12. Aug 21, 2007
    sparky

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    I need to get this in the tech section.

    I've bookmarked this, now hopefully I won't forget.

    I know we've discussed it before.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2007
    mojerry

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    If you find the 72 up steel wheels, and you want to run dog dish style caps, you will need the 72 up AMC caps, with the red and blue logo. Believe it or not, they are slightly smaller than the early red and gold, Kaiser era caps. The early caps will not fit the later wheels. I know it's a small detail, but could be very frustrating to learn, after you've polished and painted the wrong ones.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2007
    jayhawkclint

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    Here's for the tech pages:

    I got Animal fever today; I wanted steel wheels on my '70 in a bad way. Ever since I first joined this site and laid eyes on that fine '63 (Grrrrr!!), I've wanted those wheels on my JEEP. I've purposefully kept the flares OFF the JEEP just waiting for this day. I know people have said they don't fit, but I thought maybe with a little grinding here and there I could get them to work. Well, they just plain don't fit. On the Chevy calipers, it is the pin that gets in the way. Can't really grind the head of the pin off or else you'd not be able to do maintenance. Fine, I thought, I'll just swap axles. Move over to the stock '77-'78 CJ D30 laying in the drive. The whole caliper hits. Just eyeballing it, I think it would be danger close to grind enough off the caliper to clear. I could be wrong, but I'm not going to chance a brand new set of calipers to find out. Both the chevy and the AMC hit in the same spots where the wheel rivets to the rim on the back side. Here's the pictorial:

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  15. Oct 1, 2007
    commandolung

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    I too share the love and need for a stock rim. Well I tried Stockton wheel they wanted over $250R). I said yeah right and went on with my project. Well three weeks ago I found a guy that does custom wheels. He will take a stocker and convert it to disc compatible in either 8 or 10 wide what ever you need. The only thing I will need to do is take a D30 with me and have hiim do the measurments. He also thinks he might be able to do them in 16. Im not sure about price yet but it will be under $200 powdercoated. Oh and there is a stock wheel out there that will work they are as hard to find as hens teeth.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2007
    blevisay

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    SWEEEEEET!
     
  17. Oct 1, 2007
    sparky

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    Well, what application are they from?

    You can't just leave us hanging like this. :)
     
  18. Oct 1, 2007
    commandolung

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    Im asuming from CJs with disc fronts. They were on a buddies jeepster when he got it. Ive talked to J&W jeepwreckers they say they have a pile of stock rims but they have no clue if any are disc compatible.
     
  19. Oct 2, 2007
    sparky

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    Early 5's never came with disk brakes.

    I thought you meant there was a stock application that worked with disk or 11" drums.

    I already noted in my article that later CJ's that were equipped with disk brakes would work.
     
  20. Oct 3, 2007
    Willys Motors

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    The wheel you want is an X-45256 (national wheel and rim sales number) also known as KH 103599.
    They are 15x8 steel, and are very scarce.
     
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