I've been trying to noodle a way that I can get the Jeep and maybe 2 motorcycles or maybe a quad out to the desert without having to get a really big trailer that I would have no place to store. One of the ideas that came to mind (after taking a long drag off Dan's crack pipe?) was to have a long towbar (I'd like to make a longer one anyhow) that I can mount a ramp and some tie downs on to and put the bike there. Is it a really bad idea to add a bunch of tongue weight to the towbar? Just another wacky idea. I've also considered double towing - i.e. pulling a small trailer behind the Jeep which is being flat towed. Not sure that's legal - and it sure would look weird. Kind of a toy train. I'd love to hear if anyone has a solution or idears.