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Another Parking Brake Discussion..

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by 47v6, Jan 30, 2023.

  1. Jan 30, 2023
    47v6

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    I'm sick of trying too deal with the transfer case brake.. Yeah, I know some of you have great results. My experience is different.

    I want easy, cheap and bolt on. I don't want to re engineer anything more. I want off the shelf stuff.

    Presently I have GM calipers and thick jeep disks at all 4 corners. Nothing is an easy bolt on and off the shelf aside from 72-75(?) 11" rear drums.

    I can get rear backers for a reasonable price and all the shoes, hardware and drums are in the cart at rockauto. Seems I can do it complete minus the parking brake cables and lever for under 300 bucks.

    But its so uncool.. Drum brakes... opinions?
     
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    Ol Fogie

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    What is wrong with your tc brake you cannot seem to fix?
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    Subaru :twist:
     
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    FinoCJ

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    Metcalfs garage rear brake discs with electric parking brake?
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    There's nothing wrong with 11" drums unless you drive through lots of deep rivers inconveniently located on the tops of steep hills. :schooled:

    That being said I do kinda like the electric PB units that have surfaced over the last year or so but without knowing you current rear caliper mount setup it's hard to say how much trouble they would be to integrate.
     
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    fhoehle

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    I went back to stock 71? jeep drums in the rear, after going to my semifloat 60 with 44 axles. Every time I look at them, they are the same, even towing trailers, wheeling in water, whatever. Heavy mud I suppose would be an issue, but regular farm mud/manure/etc, doesn't seem to affect them. I wanted to just buy normal jeep parts for them. I have cables and a handle to make the e-brake all work, but never any time to mess with it. When I got rid of the Dana 18, I didn't miss the transfer case parking brake any.
     
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    47v6

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    Nothing except it will never work right without re engineering anyway. The through the dash cane wont put enough pressure to expand the shoes to stop my jeep on 35s from rolling away. Also the 4.3 interferes with the firewall mounting for that. I dont want to spend a bunch of time re engineering something that isn't going to be as effective as I want it to be....

    I like teh ford electric parking brakes, but the controller for it is 400 bucks alone unless you want to engineer a switch with a drop out when you get to the set resistance. I just want to drive this thing and no reinvent every little thing.

    What I am really looking for is a fail safe parking brake that actually works if I need to get out of my jeep on a hill for whatever reason and not roll away.

    Lokar park brake levers also seem to be made of gold or something..400 bucks?!?
     
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    SFaulken

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    As far as the park brake levers go, Assuming you have any near, you can pretty much go to the boneyard and find any Ford Car with a transmission tunnel mounted park brake handle, from about 1960 to 1985 or so (possibly even later in the Mustang/Capri) and it's pretty darned easily adaptable.
     
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    47v6

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    I was looking for something like that or generic. New they are everywhere for like 80 bucks. Its a whole lot more trouble than its worth to go to a wrecking yard around here and none let you in anymore.
     
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    duffer

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    I know you stated you don't want to engineer anything, and Wilwood's MC4's are not cheap but I just got those hooked up in my B and WOW. Now I'm thinking of hooking those cables up individually for cutting brakes. I have the two ebrake levers for doing that which were hooked up originally to the 11" Bendix rear drums. Geeezzzze was that a long time ago-----------almost half a century.
    [​IMG]

    The dimensions of the adapter plate are in my build thread.
    http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/106011/page-10
     
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    Ol Fogie

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    i Had the same problem with my 3B and the dash handle. I got a between the seats factory pull up type handle from a small car at the pick in pull. Had plenty of leverage with the ratcheting handle to completely lock the drum brake in the D-18. If I remember correct I got the cable too, that was a little long I just made a loop in it and it worked fine. 10.00 Fix.
     
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    47v6

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    This is the solution to my problem, but my rotors are 1.28 thick and the widest rotor these go to is 1.10.
    https://www.wilwood.com/Calipers/Ca...al&finish=&numofpist=&rtrwidth=1.10&pistarea=
     
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    duffer

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    Those calipers are all SAE and it's easy to make spacers to widen the "grip". I did that on mine too. It was either narrow the wider width or add the spacer to the narrow width in my case and the latter was cheaper. I have the 7/8" Jeep rotors.
     
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    47v6

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    So, what youre saying is I can take them apart to allow a wider rotor?
     
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    Jw60

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    2019 Expedition rear calipers are electric parking and for .875 thick rotors...
    :whistle:
     
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    Norcal69

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    Yup!
    These are what I plan to use on my rear disc setup connected via cables to my current forklift e brake lever mounted between the seats.
    I am actually going to use the Mechanical spot calipers, but they work the same as Duffer's.

    [​IMG]
     
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    73 cj5

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    Another vote for the Ford Fusion calipers. All you need is a DPDT switch and some wires. No need for breakers or anything. Using common sense when applying the brakes...I never had an issue and I only used one caliper to hold the 3b even on some very steep hills.

    Since you have GM stuff have you thought about 76-77 Cadillac Eldorado calipers? I think I'll go that route in the future when I'm ready for an E-brake.
     
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    Fireball

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    A couple members have just used spring release switches as controllers. Hold the switch down for a bit to lock the brakes then let go of it. Same for the release. Not scientific and all but it seems to be working for them.
     
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    Jw60

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    Those caddy calipers are narrower than what he has. Those and the Expedition calipers work on the .875 thick jeep rotors.
     
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    Fireball

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    ...and 73 cj5 beats me to the punch by mere seconds!
     
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