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Discussion in 'Quitters' Club' started by nwedgar, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. Dec 19, 2014
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    Picked this up today, its an '06. Has a soft top and bikini top also. Interior is like new, only has 56K miles. I like everything about...except one...I took it for a long test drive, on and off road, various speed from 25 to 70. No issues, until the ride home, then I got the dreaded death wobble about 3 times on the highway. Ugh. I didn't expect to have to fix something right away. It was a personal sale, not a dealer. It was an otherwise smoking good deal.

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  2. Dec 19, 2014
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Nice. Check all the bushings and especially tierods and ball joints. Steering stabilizer usually helps but is just a band-aid
     
  3. Dec 20, 2014
    Jeepenstein

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    SAme thing happened with My F-350.. Nice looking Jeep though.. I like it..
     
  4. Dec 20, 2014
    Twin2

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    is it a stick shift rubicon . dreaded death wobble on a newer jeep :?
     
  5. Dec 20, 2014
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    Yes it's a 6 speed. On the DW, it is 8 years old with about 56k on it so not exactly new. I checked the bushings and most are old rubber that's cracked. I ordered new poly bushings already. I'll check the ball joints too.
     
  6. Dec 20, 2014
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    I didn't think the death wobble would happen on the newer ones.
     
  7. Dec 21, 2014
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    TJ's can be worse than old Jeeps with DW. The number one cause I see is worn/ loose track bars.
     
  8. Dec 21, 2014
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    I understand this is an issue with JK's also.
     
  9. Dec 21, 2014
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yep
     
  10. Dec 21, 2014
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I made a 1/8" thick plate and welded it on the outside axle bracket for the track bar, and replaced the stock bolt with a 3/8X24 Gr.8 with a Gr.8 nylon stop nut and Gr.8 flat washers when I installed my JKS track bar. Just to be sure..;)
     
  11. Dec 23, 2014
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    That's a new one to me. I never would have thought they would have that issue.
     
  12. Dec 23, 2014
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Jk`s can have it bad. They look fine but we've had a couple where the control arms had to be repaced even though they looked normal
     
  13. Dec 25, 2014
    PeteL

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    My '88 YJ got the wobbles when the BFG tires were worn and needed re-balancing.

    Also the track bar bolt does indeed need to be checked for tight, as mentioned above.
     
  14. Dec 25, 2014
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    I don't know what TJ's, YJ's, and JK's are (only CJ's!), but with my old job I drove a '98 Cherokee, a '00 or so Cherokee Sport, and an '07 Liberty. Put a LOT of miles on 'em, and NEVER had a wobble of any kind with any of them. They were awesome, I loved 'em all. I'd love to have that Liberty back.

    But one day on the Interstate in Denver, I saw a girl driving a Wrangler (I think), and that thing went into such a violent wobble I thought parts were gonna fly! It was pretty eye-opening and scary.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2015
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    I replaced all the front bushings...upper and lower control arms, track bar, and sway bar plus end links...along with putting on a new steering damper. The ball joints felt good, no movement to indicate replacement was needed. The front feels nice and firm now. No death wobble yet but I need to drive it some more. Still have a very slight pull to the right so I might need an alignment, especially after replacing all that.

    As an aside, those rubber bushings are a BEAR to get out, especially the one on the axle for the driver side upper control arm. Took me 10 hours total to replace all of them, most of which was getting the old bushings out. The new poly bushings use the old rubber bushing metal casing so I couldn't just hammer it out I had to remove the rubber part only. I also changed the spark plugs, which were original, the gap was 45-50 and should have been 32-35, maybe my mileage will go above 14.5 now. Overall I'm still really happy with the purchase.
     
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