mopar 360

found one with a tranny and tcase
thinking about puttin it in my 65 cj5
good idea r bad idea? my f134 needs to be rebuilt but id rather have much more power then spending money to rebuild the f134

 

I am an old mopar fan but the problem is always gonna be the rear distributor in any v8 swap but a Ford, Buick or v8's with front mounted distributors. That being said it could be done just gonna have that problem right off the bat.

 

What trans/transfer case is it attached to? If it's the drivetrain out of a Dodge truck, it'll probably be too large to be easily swapped into a CJ5.
Not to mention, you'll get Dodge all over your Jeep...

 

lol thats funny.
but i think it actually was in a cj5 at some point it its life.the guy dragraced it.
im not sure what tranny transfer case it is im gunna calll him today and find out tho. said he wanted 500 for all of it

 

Novak has a comment about this swap:
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/mopar_small_block.htm
A few of the comments here may apply as well:
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/myths_and_rules.htm

 

well the transmision is the 999 i believe. not quite sure about the tcase. man that knock just keeps getting worse in the little hurricane.

 

The is no way you will fit an automatic in a CJ5 with a V8, maybe with the Dana 18 T-case you could squeeze one in. You will have an extremely short drive shaft though.

 

The 999 was used in the CJ-7 in combination with the Dana 300. I'd be surprised if it was a Jeep drivetrain and not an AMC 360. The Mopar and Jeep 360s are not the same engine.

A Jeep (AMC) 360 would bolt right up to an A999 (the AMC version of the TF999). A Dodge 360 would not.

It'd be hard to make a 360/999/D300 combination fit in an early CJ-5. Doable, but waaaay more trouble and expense than it's worth, IMO. If you really have to have an automatic, I'd suggest a V6 and the TH350, which will be shorter overall. Also consider whether you want to keep your rear axle - it will only work with the Dana 18 transfer case.

Not a lot of choices with the offset rear axle and short wheelbase.

 

i dont really want an automatic. thats jsut whats availavle.
i really want a standard

 

To badly quote the Novak site. "just because you have something does not mean it is right for your vehicle"

 

what manual transmission could i get out of junkyard that could work with this motor?

 

If it's really a Dodge, likely the Dodge NP435 would be the easiest. You'd have to spend $500 for an adapter to your transfer case. The NP435 would have to be torn down and reassembled with a new main shaft. No easy options.

I would look for an Astro Van or S-10 with a 4.3L V6. Then you can use your existing transmission with the V6.

Or look for an S-10 with a 2.5L 4-cylinder. That's another cheap option. Buy the whole car, strip out what you need, and scrap it. Often buying the whole car is the cheapest way to get the engine you want.

You'll need an adapter between the transmission and engine. The GM-to-T90 adapters appear on the used market pretty often. Or buy a new one from Novak or Advanced.

 

Get a sbc (283/302/305/307/327/350) and an SM420! Much easier swap more support IMO

 

The Mopar 360 would be a good swap , you can easily use the np435 or the Dodge/Ford version of the t18.

 

money is tight and the 360 is what i found that i can afford. and i dont want to buy a motor that needs to be rebuilt because i cant afford it. so i think if i buy this motor tranny and tcase use the the motor sell the tranny and t case get a junkyard tranny and tcase or buy an adapter for existing tcase i should break about even right?
well hopefully speaking that is.
my dad tells me i should rebuild the f134. i told him thats out of the question unless he decides to drop a grand in my bank account. (getting 10 dollars for school lunch is impossible much less a grand for a motor) i know for a fact the 360 runs and drives ive seen it in person at local events. how big of a difference would the length of the drive trains be if i used the existing tranny and tcase on the 360 compared to whats already stock in my cj5?
ill take some measurements and see what i come up with. i dont know if this is possible but ive also thought that since i would end up with so little room in the rear for a driveshaft that i could recess the radiator mount on the grill so that i could mount the drive train further towards the front of the frame to make room for a longer driveshaft in the rear. im just brainstorming things if i sound like an idot please let me know lol

 

just thinking on your swap, if i am not mistaken the mopar line of v8's is some what longer than the chevy line. the block itself is not that much longer but when you add in the mopar timing cover and water pump it looks like to me you gain several inches in length. that being said a sbc is a tight fit at best are you going to have enough room for the mopar. I am not trying to say one is a better engine than the other i am just pointing out my obversation. this would be a interesting swap, I was considering the mopar 3.9 a while back because it was going to be free

 

yea. ima go pick up the motor in a bit and then hit the junkyard and see what i can find on a np435

 

this will be fun
auto transmision and matching tcase is bout to hit the craigslist. im bout to hit the junkyards and go shopping at novak

 

i have an oppurtinity to trade the 360 and tranny for a rebuilt 305. in which case i could keep my original tranny and tcase. give me guidence!

 

305 would be a cheeper swap, probably find a adapter used out of a v6 jeep and change out the input shaft, the rest is gonna be the same amount of work with either engine