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steering bellcrank rebuild

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by siddhartha37, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. Aug 15, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    Ok, a little help here. I'm in the middle of rebuilding the bellcrank on a 71 v6, have the new bearings and seals in. The new pin fits snug into the bell crank, but is too big to go into the bellcrank support. Do I have the wrong kit? The old one had a smaller pin with a sleeve on it that went over the pin and fit inside the old bearings. what gives? can I drill out the bellcrank support for the larger pin or am i missing something?

    btw, this is my first post on the board, i've been reading it for sometime, i'll get some pics of da rig up when i deem it photo worthy.
     
  2. Aug 15, 2004
    jeepngem

    jeepngem New Member

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    Sounds like you need an earlier bellcrank kit, which was 7/8" instead of 1 1/8". Part number 920556 for 7/8" and 991381 for 1 1/8". Good Luck! Glenn
     
  3. Aug 15, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    Yeah, guess so, I just liked that there was one less moving part in this kit, oh well. :?
     
  4. Aug 16, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    Wow, my title says 71, but after trying to rebuild the steering bellcrank, and considering the fact that my wipers come from the top of the windshield frame, it occured to me that it probably isn't a 71, I looked up the vin, its a 66.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2004
    jeepngem

    jeepngem New Member

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    Wow! What a difference....somebody goofed!! Good Luck!! Glenn
     
  6. Aug 16, 2004
    ljspop

    ljspop Lurking Bronco Dude

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    Don't feel bad, my title says '49. Problem is they didn't make M38's in '49. :rofl:
     
  7. Aug 16, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    hmm, just bought it, can i change the title before i get the new one issued?
     
  8. Aug 16, 2004
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    66 "should" have the 7/8" at least mine did.
     
  9. Aug 16, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    yeah, it does, if I had taken the thing apart before i bought the service kit i'd have known that, oh well, maybe mile high will trade me studs. Thx for the replies guys, any other notable differences between 66 and 71 model years?
     
  10. Aug 16, 2004
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    The main differences between a 66 and 71 are:
    The rear mounted fuel tank (mid-'70)
    Outside Bottom-mounted wiper motor ('69)
    30-spline flanged D44 rear axles (one-piece axles) (mid'70)
    Bigger front parking/turn signal lights ('69 or '70)
    Lighted Side markers ('69)

    That's all I can think of at the moment...
     
  11. Aug 16, 2004
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Lynn, you forgot the different tail lights, and because of the rear tank, no supports for the pintel hook on the rear drawbar, and they had a twin reservoir master cylinder.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2004
    imported_DSG

    imported_DSG New Member

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    one other, although not mechanical but important difference

    71= AMC

    66= Kaiser
     
  13. Aug 16, 2004
    jeepngem

    jeepngem New Member

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    another difference.....if V/6 ....(66- T-86)....(71- T-14)...also 4/way flashers, radiator/grille, clutch linkage, and I'm sure more as time goes on. Good Luck!! Glenn
     
  14. Aug 28, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    Thx for the info, the bellcrank's fixed, down from 8 to 2 inches of play! Just had the rear end rebuilt, $2300, ouch, ah well, time to hit the trails.
     
  15. Aug 28, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    :shock:

    That price include a locker or something?
     
  16. Aug 28, 2004
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    It should have included alot of something whatever it was!! :rofl:
     
  17. Aug 28, 2004
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    :shock: did it install itself too????????????
     
  18. Aug 28, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    Well, it included a new powerlok, and a new housing to throw it all into, since the old one got torn up pretty bad. btw, should it be noisy until it breaks in? it doesn't sound bad, kinda like when you put your ear right up to one with the cover off, but louder.
     
  19. Aug 29, 2004
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    :shock: there should be no noise
    how are you getting your ear to the cover while driving :D
    when I have the cover off of mine, it is very quiet
    for it is not turning at all :D
    seriously, you should have no noises coming from the rear axle
    ...unless.....
    the powerlock is chattering upon cornering, usually when warmed up; special additive to cure this problem though
    or
    other mechanical possibilites
    loose ubolts, spring bolts, lug nuts
    since the whole housing was replaced, lots to look at
     
  20. Aug 29, 2004
    siddhartha37

    siddhartha37 New Member

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    :( :( :(
    nevermind noise, i drove it to glenwood springs from denver today, now it's binding up, as in i can't even push the thing in neutral. also, they didn't bleed my brakes apparently, cuz i gotta pump the pedal twice before they'll grab at all. Now I'm 180 miles away from the shop that did the work, and i have an undriveable jeep.
     
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