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Best locker or posi for a front 27

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by dal290la, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. Feb 2, 2009
    dal290la

    dal290la New Member

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    I know this has to have been discussed many times but please help me here. I want to posi or locker my front D27 and want to know what everyone thinks for cost functionality etc. I have 3.73 and would rather not spend the money to change ring and pinion. Lock right seems to be a popular choice but they are $358 on ebay for a 3.73 and under.

    Thoughts please R)
     
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  2. Feb 2, 2009
    dal290la

    dal290la New Member

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    Re: Best loccker or posi for a front 27

    No I can not spell "locker"
     
  3. Feb 2, 2009
    dal290la

    dal290la New Member

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    Re: Best loccker or posi for a front 27

    anybody?
     
  4. Feb 2, 2009
    jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

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    I put a power lock in mine and like it a lot. I don't know if you are going to find one for any cheaper than a lock rite though.
    Check Randy's Ring & Pinion for price too.
     
  5. Feb 2, 2009
    dal290la

    dal290la New Member

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    How does it steer in turns?
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I'm old.
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    I like powerlocks.
    harder to find and maintain, pricey.
    I have no experience with the so called lunch box lockers,.
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    dal290la

    dal290la New Member

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    Where's Randy's and how do I get in touch?
     
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    timgr

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    jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

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    You can tell it is there but since I have power steering it is not that big of a deal.
    Do a web search for Randy's. There was a thread around here somewhere talking about getting parts for a power lock. I know Herm sells parts and so does Randy's.

    http://www.ringpinion.com/ContentFr...ent/Parts/Carriers//Common_Carrier_Breaks.inc

    http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/id2.htm
    About 1/2 way down the page.
    Got my power lock off ebay. Lots of looking until I finally found one.
     
  11. Feb 2, 2009
    CJ-X

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    Power locks are good units. Not the performance of a locker, but one of the best limited slips. Also less worries of axle breakage when compared to a locker.
    Steering not an issue at all, simply because it is a limited slip, not a locker.
     
  12. Feb 3, 2009
    80cj

    80cj Member

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    Powerloks are strong. You're not going to break those 4 spider gears. The ring and pinion or axles will go first.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2009
    jeeper50

    jeeper50 jeeps 'till I die

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    :)I've had lockrights in both axles for several years, most of my driving has been on trails. They have road manners that you need to get used to. I converted my D18 to 2lo setup to ease tight turns on trails:). It helps out a bunch. Only had one problem with axle breakage, I broke the old bendix style axle with an Fhead and 31s.:hurrican: Still running lunchbox lockers in my new project, need to mod the D18 to 2lo during the summer.
    Traction is awesome with a locker! I'd say bite the bullet on cost, but you might keep checking ebay for used ones.
     
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    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Powerlocks are a great limited slip, one of the best ever offered. If you want a true locker then for the cost conscious the Lock Right or Aussie is a good choice. $384 is way over priced. Should be closer to $280-$300 range. I have Lock Rights front and rear in the '59 CJ-5. I did the 2 low mod to the transfer case for steering on tight trails. They've held up well to my abuse and give max traction. They do have some road manners that must be adjusted to though.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2009
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Call Bob Supplee, get a price on the Lock Right you need (he may also deal in Aussies).

    Supplee's 4WD, Moore OK
    405-799-8977

    His price should be better than what you've found, and his price usually includes shipping.

    BTW, I installed Lock Rights in the '71 10+ yrs ago. They've been trouble free. (Right Don??)
    I agree with the others, a few handling quirks, and twin stick conversion helps alot when trying to turn when in 4WD/hubs locked in.

    They can be very tricky in snow... shouldn't be much of a concern in Georgia... ;)
     
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    w3srl

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    X-whatever on the Lock-Rite. Only real handling quirk I've found with mine (rear) was when I tried to run on hard pavement with the tires still aired down. Whenever I did that the Jeep would tend to kick the rear end over in one direction on acceleration and then back the other way on deceleration. Not that big of a deal, just kinda unnerving until I realized what was going on. Once I aired back up that little quirk pretty much went away.

    <edit> I forgot to mention that it DOES get somewhat interesting in the snow without the 4wd engaged, but once you lock it in it runs GREAT! :D
     
  17. Feb 3, 2009
    dal290la

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    What is a 2 low mod to the transfer case?
     
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    dal290la

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    Upon reading further, I saw that it is a twin stick tr:rofl:ansfer case.

    Thanks for all of the info, it is of great help.
     
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    windyhill

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    Also the twin sticks could not go into 2low from factory you have to disaseble the transfercase and remove the shift pill that's between the shift rails. If you don't have a twin stick setup you can convert to one, Shoot Nickmill a PM on here, he puts together a good twin stick set up for a very reasonable price.
     
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