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CB Coxial cable

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Don X, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. Jul 14, 2008
    Don X

    Don X The Prodigal Moderator Staff Member 2023 Sponsor

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    I decided on a 3' firestik that I found locally for $18.95 + tax. On the packaging it says to use 18' of coxial cable when installing? :?

    I checked on their website and found the following in the FAQ section:

    I haven't found any reasoning for the 18' spec. I'm tempted to try using a shorter length since I'm not going for optimum performance just trail use. Can anyone here shed some light on this?
     
  2. Jul 14, 2008
    sdcj6

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    Leave it 18 feet long, I believe it has to do with the standing wave ratio. You need to have the SWR checked after the installation. Did you get the antenna from The Mud Shack? If you did they will tune it for you.
     
  3. Jul 14, 2008
    Don X

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    Ray, I got it from Truckin Stuff on Magnolia in El Cajon. I plan on getting an SWR meter so I can tune it myself and periodically check it.
     
  4. Jul 14, 2008
    Hawk62cj5

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    How can you tune an antenna with out it mounted .... or is that a local shop .
    I ask because you are not really doing any thing with out it being mounted in its place because your vehicle is going to be the half of the ant.

    The coax lenth .......... just keep it short , The only thing I have ever noticed about coax is the longer or the cheaper it is the more loss you will have ... I have cheap coax on one of my antennas out side and I cant run 440 (UHF) on it do to loss . I have some better coax but been to lazy to put it up.
     
  5. Jul 14, 2008
    jpflat2a

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    I just bought my new coax in a 20 ft length, tailered or split with ends installed.
    wadded up the excess on top of the gas tank
     
  6. Jul 14, 2008
    Don X

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    Ray's comment was they will tune it after it's installed. Your're right that you can't bench tune an antenna all you could do tune it to a specific frequency. I'm planing to tune it after it's installed. :beer:
     
  7. Jul 14, 2008
    bkd

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    Ok I've been following Don's posts on CB's w/ interest because it's next on the list for the 6 ,one thing I havn't seen is a optimum location for the antenna mount....what's best?
     
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    jpflat2a

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    a homebrew bracket on your tire carrier
    a spring/ball mount on the side ( I have this)
    I've seen some mounted in the cowl behind the hood, in front of the w/shield
    can a' worms
     
  9. Jul 14, 2008
    Patrick

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    My excess coax is zig zagged clipped to the bottom of the cowl, under the dash.... Or, actually, above the dash....
    I used a "mirror mount" bracket, attached to the RR of the tire carrier..3Ft. Firestik.
     
  10. Jul 15, 2008
    Don X

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    Any pics of the antenna mounts? I'm thinking rear corner on top of the wheel well as far back as I can or on the tire carrier.
     
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    panzer

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    I just cut it to length and installed a new end. Works well w/ an 8" stainless whip.
    Mounted on the rear bumber w/ a conical spring. I keep the end tied down on like
    military antennas.
     
  12. Jul 15, 2008
    lynn

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    The 18 ft requirement is a myth... again Stu Olson comes through with the info...

    http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm

    However it is usually convenient to buy it prepackaged that way, so the info about leaving the excess as loose as possible is accurate.
     
  13. Jul 15, 2008
    Don X

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    Nice! Thanx :beer:
     
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    jpflat2a

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    here are some

    ball/spring mount
    cowl mount - not good if you fold your w/shield down
     
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    panzer

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    New bumper and set up. Cable not hooked up yet.

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    Old bumper and set up.

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  16. Jul 15, 2008
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    As long as the shield of the coax is properly attached to a good sized hunk of metal at the antenna base (say, for example, a Jeep :)) the length of the coax is immaterial. If it isn't (it should be!) just fer fun even the 18 ft , or as in the Olsen article, 11 ft. length is problematic as your are now depending on the outside surface of the coax shield to act as the "ground" and routing this around things or next to metal things will have the effect of changing it's "electrical" length. So to get your antenna to work properly you would have to start experimenting with where the coax cable would be run & changing it's physical length to get the best (Good? So-So?) performance. Due to the wavelength size compared to the size of most vehicles these days it can be tough enough as it is to get a good match on a CB antenna, I put one on my Durango a few years ago & just opening a door was enough to send the VSWR crazy.

    H.
     
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    Don X

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    Doors? What are these doors you speak of? Open doors won't be a problem ;) :D
     
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    1960willyscj5

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    On my Sixty I used a mirror mount and mounted it in the notch that the canvas top bow is supposed to fold into just above and behind the rear wheel. On the drivers side. or you could dual it and mount one on each side in that position. The cable is run up the roll bar to the center spreaders and forward to the radio which is mounted between the spreaders.

    Gotta get my digital charged up and take some pictures.
     
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    Hawk62cj5

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    Mine Wilson 2000 on a standard mount .
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    I have a zip tie on the end that I tie off to the roll bar on the trail with a 8" mini bungie
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    zed

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    Any excess coax should be bundled in a random fashion. If you coil it, it will act like a choke.
     
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