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Roll Cage Opinion

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by BenB, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. Feb 19, 2007
    BenB

    BenB Member

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    Take a look at these pictures and tell me what you think about the strength of the connectors. My dad and I built this half cage ten years ago when I first got the jeep. It has been in storage for the last seven and I finally got it out and running. I am planning to have a cage welded in, but was curious what people thought about this setup.
     
  2. Feb 19, 2007
    AIRSHIPDOC

    AIRSHIPDOC New Member

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    What is the tube material ?
     
  3. Feb 19, 2007
    Dummy

    Dummy I kick hippies

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    Twice in my travels I've seen SCH40 pipe cages built w/ screw on plumbing fixtures fail miserably . One time it resulted in a life flight evac for the lady passenger. Those connectors seem a bit stronger than yours by comparison. What is it - fence connectors or scaffolding rigging?

    I'd say it's better than nothing, but I wouldn't trust my life to it. I think the trick to cages like these it to wheel your Jeep with the same caution as if you had no cage at all. Then anything beyond that is bonus. Glad to hear you're planning on welding in a real cage.
     
  4. Feb 19, 2007
    4dawudz

    4dawudz Dale

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    If you intend to preserve your health and life expentancy during a rollover, do what the racers do..... get a rule book and build it to those specs, after all it's ONLY your life!
    How is it attached to the body/frame?
    It's better than nothing in a high C.G. machine?

    My roll cage has been tested twice at 20-30 mph and I only had to put a bandaid on a nick on my finger after one.... do it right! To your health !!!
    Oh, and don't forget to wear your seat belt, the BEST cage in the world doesn't do any good if you don't. Sorry for the sermon, but I'm living testimony!!!

    Dale
     
  5. Feb 19, 2007
    BenB

    BenB Member

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    I went to a four wheel fabricator and was quoted around 1100-1500 dollars for a full cage tied into the frame. How does this price sound.
     
  6. Feb 19, 2007
    hudsonhawk

    hudsonhawk Well-Known Member

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    4 or 6 points tied in? Not bad for a 6-point system.
     
  7. Feb 19, 2007
    BenB

    BenB Member

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    6 point
     
  8. Feb 19, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    What are labor rates by you?

    Sounds maybe a tad high - unless you can get seat mounts and seat belt mounts accommodated in for that price.

    I paid $900 for my CJ6 cage (with no frame tie ins as I didn't want them) - but I know the guy wished he had charged more...;)
     
  9. Feb 19, 2007
    hudsonhawk

    hudsonhawk Well-Known Member

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    All of the cage work I have had done comes to around $3000. That includes everything from the front to the rear. A total of 10 frame tie-ins, seats mounted to the cage, cage mounted seat belt anchors, bracing, custom skid plate, cross member and the custom swing out tire carrier on the back. I basically have about half a tube chasis built inside the body work of the jeep. My avatar does not show the most recent changes I have done. Here is a better pick of the front end work.
     
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  10. Feb 20, 2007
    JeepTherapy

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    I got a couple hundred tops in mine. It is a 4wheel drive hardware front hoop with some old cut up roll bars and some pipe. I am pretty confident that it will hold up to a gentle roll. I don't think it would take a 30mph roll without damaging it.

    I built a very similar one in my 48 CJ2a. The jeep got rolled over a cliff, totaled the jeep but didn't bend the bar. No one was hurt in the roll over.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Feb 20, 2007
    xtrm4xjp

    xtrm4xjp Member

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    X2 need we say more?


    $1100-$1500 which includes tieing it in to the floor is a good price if you ask me. Be sure that the design is good and that they are useing quality material. I prefer DOM myself.

    Anders
     
  12. Feb 20, 2007
    cj-john

    cj-john Member

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    I just had mine built. I used 1 5/8 chrome moly tubing, per NHRA specs. Might be overkill but most of the time I spend off or on road my kids are in the Jeep. Why take chances???
     
  13. Feb 20, 2007
    Dj

    Dj Gearhead

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    I'm with the rest of the guys here. Those tubes don't look thick or hard enough, judging by the little bit I've seen, nor do they appear to be braced in any fashion that would keep them from shifting. And those connectors look like a sure failure point.

    Do it up right, like everyone else has said, your life is in the cage, and the cage is supposed to protect your life. Build accordingly.
     
  14. Feb 20, 2007
    tango59

    tango59 Member

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    Can't add much to what's been said cept, I hate the emergency room. Jeeptherapy I have a pic of your cage saved on my computer for when I can afford to have mine made.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2007
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    Whats the cost for an ER visit?
    More than a good cage. ;)
    Couldn't tell how much my cage cost the PO, all it cost me was a mint ecj5 grill and some other small parts.
     
  16. Jun 21, 2007
    BenB

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    Good news, the cage will be done friday. I'll post pics as soon as I get it home. I took it to Blue Torch Fabworks. The make the four wheel chassis for team Red Bull. I'm pretty excited, been waiting 9 years for a real cage.
     
  17. Jun 21, 2007
    Dave in Houston

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    Those pictures look like galvanized threaded pipe and fittings to me. It has very little structural strength with a real tendency to break easily at the point where the threads screw into each fitting. If you put much of a load on those connections they'll break quickly, and unexpectedly and you'll have sharp, broken pipe ends flying around in your jeep. JMO but you'd be better off with no roll bar at all than one made out of galvanized screw pipe.
     
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