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Body Work Questions

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by NorthernMich, Jun 9, 2007.

  1. Jun 9, 2007
    NorthernMich

    NorthernMich Member

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    View this pic of my corner...do I fix this or sand prime and cover with a Aluminum Treadbrite Warrior Diamond Plate?

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    Notice the rust starting below embossed Jeep...

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    Do I do this?[​IMG]or...

    List the steps to restore this spot-thanks!

    Also-pass floor only has holes-suggestions??
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  2. Jun 9, 2007
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Yup, those are easily fixable. My personal opinion is to avoid diamond plate for longevity.
     
  3. Jun 10, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I hate bodywork....I'd go diamond plate...;)

    But go steel painted to match rather than the bling.
     
  4. Jun 10, 2007
    timgr

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    I'd for dang sure stop the rust if I chose to cover the crooked metal with diamond plate. The body will continue to rust under the diamond plate. In fact, the diamond plate will probably accelerate any existing rust, since it will trap moisture next to the steel.

    I'd grind out the old bondo, grind the surface rust or cover with Rust Encapsulator or similar, and patch-in any cancer - at minimum. Straightening and surface coat is optional.
     
  5. Jun 10, 2007
    Lieutenant Mike

    Lieutenant Mike Firefighter Mike

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    Replacement panels are not too expensive. I would replace all of the rot with new pieces. Thats what I am getting into with mine now.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Jun 10, 2007
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I cut the rust out and welded patch panels in. Skimmed with body filler, sand, prime , and paint....
    'Course, then I bolted diamond plate on....
     
  7. Jun 10, 2007
    jd7

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    :iagree:
     
  8. Jun 10, 2007
    Dana

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    Patch panels at 4wd.com are cheap. Worked well.
     
  9. Jun 10, 2007
    NorthernMich

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    Thanks for all the comments, I have a chance to buy panels. I will take a pic and post price and listen to advice.

    The corner is dented in, should I drill and use a puller?

    Cut out and panel patch...? What kind of welder do I need or can I use?

    ...I have an old arc welder, never used it...will that suffice? I can start this work soon in the pole barn. The filler I was using is fiberglass plastic with hardener.
     
  10. Jun 10, 2007
    Dana

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    Arc welders are pretty intense for sheet metal. if you try that I'd go as low amps as possible and a rod with less penetrating power like a 7018. You might be able to rent a stitch welder, or a wire feed...
     
  11. Jun 11, 2007
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    I have my dad's old Lincoln AC180 stick welder, and I bought an Eastwood Stitch welder for it. It and some rods was under $100, and it's supposed to be designed especially for attaching to an AC welder and welding thin sheet metal. It essentially has a cable that clamps into the rod holder, and away you go.

    I haven't tried it yet, not ready for bodywork so I've got it stashed. I've heard good things about them, somebody here bought one and raved about it.
     
  12. Jun 11, 2007
    Dave in Houston

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    Take the plunge and buy a MIG welder. You can get a lower amperage one at Sears for around $300 on sale. Trying to use a stick rod welder on car bodies can be very, very frustrating, and generally not very productive. Everything you show in the photos is easily repairable with some 16 ga. sheet metal, a MIG welder and a few hours on a weekend.
    I've got one of the Eastwood stitch welders and it doesn't even come close to the MIG.
     
  13. Jun 12, 2007
    NorthernMich

    NorthernMich Member

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    thanks...I'm sure I can borrow a MIG, now that I know what I'm looking for.

    Last complete auto engine I rebuilt was 1974...how time flies. I finally have a project as an adult to tackle and frankly I figured techniques and materials would have evolved.

    I appreciate every input. Hopefully I can connect with some local Jeep nuts as I have a 30 x 60 pole barn and a few fun tools :)

    Nothing like hands on and visual for me.

    Thanks again.
     
  14. Jun 12, 2007
    Dave in Houston

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    Another handy tool for body work on a jeep is a 4 1/2" angle grinder with the 1/8" thick metal cutting discs. Best thing I've found for quickly cutting body sheet metal. Just make sure to keep the guard in place and wear gloves and safety glasses.
     
  15. Jun 13, 2007
    TexasBlues

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    all this body work info is good to learn... i'll be keeping an eye on this thread for sure
     
  16. Jun 13, 2007
    grannyscj

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    From what I can see of it, you should be able to hammer and dolly out most if not all of the dents. If there's any bracing underneath (I'm not familiar w/ the intermediates) be sure to bring it out too. Obviously, holes need to be filled in w/ new sheet metal, but save as much as you can. It will ultimately be stronger than any patch panels.:v6:
     
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