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Dauntless Clutch Cable

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by kenb, May 19, 2021.

  1. May 19, 2021
    kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

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    John Gedde

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  3. May 19, 2021
    colojeepguy

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    That is an excellent cable, it's what I run on my 70, waaaay better than the Crown replacement junk. We had a whole thread about it awhile back.
    But, a 67 should not have that style cable, are you sure that's what you've got?
     
  4. May 19, 2021
    boopiejones

    boopiejones I can’t drive 55

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    I installed the advance adapters chain clutch linkage and it made a huge difference. The chain runs over a cog which eliminates the stock bellcrank. The bellcrank is the primary reason these clutches get rough/sticky.
     
  5. May 19, 2021
    kenb

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    It sure looks like it. Long cable that is connected to the clutch pedal, loops around and actuates the clutch. No bellcrank like the F head setup. Jeep is titled as a 67, seller said it might actually be a 68. 225/T14
    I hosed it down very good with brake cleaner today and then silicone spray. Seems much better for now. I'll see if it gets bad again. Thanks for the replies.
     
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    Bearskin10

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    Doesn't look much different then normal linkage, only thing I see is braided cable is changed to a solid bar which is something I wondered if it would be better?
    How long have you had this and does it make that much difference? Had been thinking of going the way of AA chain linkage but this might be worth a look....
     
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    Buildflycrash

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    I took off my AA chain linkage and did the big modification of YJ hanging pedals and hydraulic clutch. The AA linkage did bind on me but only in extreme flex situations on last years CO trip.
     
  8. May 19, 2021
    FinoCJ

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    I used the inline cable tube and it has worked great so far....I have never had a problem with the function of a clutch cable in terms of shifting gears etc, but the cheap crown/omix cables broke on my twice - seems they last about 2-3 years of heavy use, so I moved to the inline tube brand. Its only been one year so can't give an honest reliability review yet, but fit and quality was perfect. Here is the thread Doug mentioned above:
    Inline Tube Clutch Cable Information
     
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    colojeepguy

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    I've had mine for several years and it's still working great.
     
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    1967 CJ5A

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    I would also recommend the Inline Tube cable. I started with the Crown cable, and it needed constant adjustment because it was always stretching out. Finally it snapped and left me with no clutch. The Inline Tube cable is much higher quality and I trust it a lot more. I've never had to readjust it and it feels smoother too.
     
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    Hellion

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    I like this and is what I was planning on cobbling together myself out of threaded rods and heim joints, but this shop has an all-in-one kit. That's pretty handy.

    This seems like the best setup for a purist who wants to retain the old style bellcrank but it is aeons better than the old metal on metal bent-rod-in-hole setup. (y)
     
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    maurywhurt

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    I upgraded my clutch linkage a couple of years ago using many of the same ideas as in the Woody's 4x4 kit (which I didn't know about at the time, or I might have just bought one).

    My setup added rubber seals to the Heim joints, and also tightened up the clutch-brake cross shaft, as shown in one of the photos in this thread.

    Questions On Redesigned / Upgraded Clutch Linkage
     
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    jpflat2a

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    Funny how they show the F4 throw out bearing and carrier in the parts diagram with V6 fork shown. Just goes to show that the Jeep parts manuals and diagrams weren't always correct.


    Sure enough, the 1971 Parts List book has another diagram for pre- clutch cable V6 CJs that shows the spring and tab (called a "clip" here) that Bowbender's Jeep has:

    [​IMG]

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  14. Jul 13, 2021
    Hellion

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    Lubricating cables is a thing, a periodic maintenance thing for vehicles with lots of cables (motorcycles for example), but it is often neglected.
    Or conversely, the cable can be one that 'needs no lubrication' per the manufacturer via 'self lubrication' or a low friction inner sheath. A lot of these are sealed with 'boots' on either end...

    Moisture will naturally wick up a cable and the sheath and it will rust, get rough or break in two--and this cable is under the vehicle where the wet road or trail is.

    Your clutch actuator is not supposed to be a cable; it is supposed to be the bellcranks and rods setup per the above illustration ^^ (with a short cable section at the end connecting directly to the clutch lever). Be interested in who did the modification to your Jeep and when/why.
     
  15. Jul 13, 2021
    kenb

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    I wonder about the part labeled "lever and tube". As I recall for the 4 cylinder there were two variations this, one for the 8" and one for the 9-1/4" clutch. My 4 cyl Jeep was mismatched, the 8" model tube with a 9-1/4" clutch, was very hard to operate smoothly. The rotational angle of the arms differed. I wonder which flavor the V6 used. Did it have its own variety?

    Edit- yes it did Cross Shaft Clutch Early V6 CJ5 & CJ6-941232
     
  16. Aug 16, 2021
    kenb

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    So I bought this cable. Upon arrival I found the pedal end is shaped to fit to a tab, like the one on the shaft inside of the frame rail, not over the pedal arm outside the frame rail. Any ideas?
    Old cable on left, new cable on right
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    colojeepguy

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    Thats how mine was too...I thought they'd changed that. I had to bend it in a vise to get it to work.
     
  18. Aug 16, 2021
    kenb

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    OK thanks, I'm glad I wasn't missing something. I'll give that a try.
     
  19. Aug 25, 2021
    kenb

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    I hammered out the incorrect fitting. The new cable is a tad short because the fitting is shorter than the oem style by maybe an inch. I got installed though. It works well, made the clutch much smoother than what was on before.
     
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