1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

68 Cj5 Holley Super Sniper Tbi 2gc Or Howell Tbi

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Phillykaiser79, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Mar 1, 2021
    truckee4x4

    truckee4x4 Grant Kaye 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Truckee CA
    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,322
  2. Mar 1, 2021
    45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Naches, WA
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,103
    Other than the cool factor, I'm not sue why anyone would want to pursue a complex electronic application to trigger the oddfire efi fueling when the simple remedy is a crank trigger. Norcal69 appears to be doing this which I believe will address his issues. Others have done this with out issues. As long as you are not trying to control timing there wouldn't be any problem.

    Now if you want an all encompassing engine control unit that will do everything you want, there is one available but dig deeply into your pocket. The TEC3R is only $2,499.00.

    TEC3r - Electromotive
     
  3. Mar 1, 2021
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Tantallon, Nova...
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    8,102

    Crank trigger = $400 +++ plus installation

    Complex electronic application (actually dirt simple electronic application) = ~ $40-$50 --- with plug 'n' play.
     
    truckee4x4, Mcruff and Fireball like this.
  4. Mar 1, 2021
    45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Naches, WA
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,103
    Crank sensor = $37.50, With the skills of the members here, they could easily build the bracket for the sensor.
     
  5. Mar 1, 2021
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Tantallon, Nova...
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    8,102
    Yup & considering what Holley charges (the sensor alone is $130) I'd certainly encourage that if that's what they want to do but designing, machining & balancing the tone wheel may be a different story.

    But this member's skills leads him to think there may be a faster/cheaper alternative :)
     
    truckee4x4 likes this.
  6. Mar 1, 2021
    Jw60

    Jw60 Sitting up n buckled down. 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sedalia MO.
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,716
    The electronics would be the best approach imho.
    I am concerned about the delay in processing but even if it could be under the dash and filled with epoxy I would keep a spare with me.

    The tone wheel and trigger will be awfully low and exposed to water which isn't normal for most performance vehicles. I expect a little mud will put it back to square one.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2021
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Tantallon, Nova...
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    8,102
    Most of the chips I'm looking at have twice as much capacity as needed, I'm thing duplicate the circuitry as much as possible to provide some redundancy.
     
    truckee4x4 and Jw60 like this.
  8. Mar 17, 2021
    Phillykaiser79

    Phillykaiser79 New Member

    Lincoln University
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    I just wanted to update my post- I have purchased the sniper 2g master kit for my 68cj5 w/ 225 odd fire .
    Couldn’t be happier - Pretty straight forward install. Make sure your HEI distributor is dialed in before installing your sniper.
    If I was to do it again I would not get the master kit, I would buy fittings; efi fuel line, pre & post fuel filter & electric fuel somewhere else. Fuel pump is loud as hell.

    I’m still dialing in my timing and letting the system learn - jeep fires right up / no more choke n warm up , runs the best it ever had .
    Hope this helps and this is just my 2 cents and what Route I decided to go.
     
  9. Mar 17, 2021
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Albertville, AL
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2002
    Messages:
    5,349
    A little more info and maybe a short video and photos would be awesome!!
     
  10. Mar 18, 2021
    Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Pullman, WA
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2018
    Messages:
    5,626
    Are you using a crank trigger or just the signal from the odd-fire HEI?
     
  11. Mar 18, 2021
    Phillykaiser79

    Phillykaiser79 New Member

    Lincoln University
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    No Crank Trigger - just the signal from hei Its a wire that runs to the tach side that reads your RPM's .
    I'll try to do a little video over the weekend and try an post it or drop it on you tube whichever one I can figure out 1st ... :)
    Either way I'll let you know
     
    truckee4x4 and Rich M. like this.
  12. Mar 18, 2021
    Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Maryland
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    2,169
    If you are running smoothly on that I'm totally in.
     
  13. Mar 22, 2021
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Albertville, AL
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2002
    Messages:
    5,349
    Hoping this video is coming soon.
     
  14. Mar 22, 2021
    Phillykaiser79

    Phillykaiser79 New Member

    Lincoln University
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Took 2 videos just having trouble loading them . One was 5-6 min other one was shorter.
    Sorry not really a tech person . Still trying to figure out how to get the larger file uploaded, keeps saying it’s to big.
     
  15. Mar 22, 2021
    Phillykaiser79

    Phillykaiser79 New Member

    Lincoln University
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Ok I think I got it........ Let me know if it works.

    Video 1

    . Video 2

    Hope it works and helps out in anyway
     
    supertrooper, Jrobz23 and truckee4x4 like this.
  16. Mar 22, 2021
    truckee4x4

    truckee4x4 Grant Kaye 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Truckee CA
    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,322
    Awesome! I’m curious if you could elaborate some more about why you don’t like the fuel part of the Holley master kit, any other reasons besides the fuel pump being loud?

    And also what distributor did you buy that did not work?
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2021
  17. Mar 22, 2021
    Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Maryland
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    2,169
    Totally awesome thanks! Say good bye carburetor I'm getting one of these. And what a great lift / garage. Thanks again!
     
  18. Mar 22, 2021
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    Hermosa, SD
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    8,513
    In the video, it sounds like it is missing at idle ?
     
  19. Mar 22, 2021
    Phillykaiser79

    Phillykaiser79 New Member

    Lincoln University
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    And the Cap was from Southwest Performance Parts $129.
    SOUTHWEST PERFORMANCE PARTS
    A-Team Performance HEI Distributor 65K Volt Coil Compatible with Buick Odd Fire 231 3.8L V6 225 Jeep 3.7L Dauntless One Wire Installation Red Cap

    & about the Fuel Parts Nothing really to complain about - Only just the fuel pump is loud - I just mentioned you could probably piece it out to save a couple bucks that's all .....

    And I bought this from eBay
    [​IMG]
    BUICK ODD FIRE 225/231 V6 RED CAP Distributor HEI Brand NEW
    Item price $89.95
    Quantity 1
    Item number 114129072885
    Shipping service USPS Priority Mail
     
  20. Mar 22, 2021
    Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Northern California
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    3,549
    I'm interested to see how it runs once you have the timing set and the computer has a fully learned tune...... Not being negative, I expected better than that when comparing to my Howell setup.
     
New Posts