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Fino's 58 Wagon

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by FinoCJ, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Dec 4, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    It looked a little better before I hacked it up even more last year....just cleaned it out and left the hole....not sure it looks any better, or that I can ever make it look better but we'll see....going to leave it as is for now until we see how the engine and distributor fit is....
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  2. Dec 4, 2020
    neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

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    I’ve seen a few firewalls made out of an old wheelbarrow to fit/set back engines. Perhaps something similar on a smaller scale? Not sure on your sheet metal fab skills, but it could be easy enough to start with a bucket, large scoop, or even an old shovel to get a shape close enough to work with.
     
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  3. Dec 4, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

    Bigdaddy13 Member

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    No, that looks WAY better. Much better to start with cleaner edges, IMO.
     
  4. Dec 4, 2020
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    20201204_191834.jpg I looked at using a regular Saginaw box on my Willys project and didn't like how it was looking....like yours, it seemed like it would be very low. Thats how I hit upon the idea of a Scout box. It looks like its going to work out well, other than having to cut a big chunk out of the fenderwell.
     
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  5. Jan 12, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Any suggestions on cutting out the old motor mounts with a cut-off disk on a 4.5" grinder...other than possibly removing the brake lines first? Kind of feels like once I do this, there isn't any turning back....right now I can still put it back together the way it was....
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  6. Jan 12, 2021
    Fireball

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    From past experience, cut close to the frame, but leave some margin. It's a lot easier to grind off the extra than weld up where you accidentally cut into the frame.
     
  7. Jan 12, 2021
    Twin2

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    I am just thinking
    if it worked as is
    why go through the trouble to change it
    what has changed
     
  8. Jan 12, 2021
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    I have cut my engine mount using a saw all and a 12" blade. had to cut them so i can put my ls engine mount.
     
  9. Jan 12, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    I don't own a sawzall....wondering if its worth trying to go that route?
     
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  10. Jan 12, 2021
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    I’d go with a cutoff wheel in a grinder, but it’s just personal preference.

    Is it a lot of work to get the fenders off? It looks like a pain to work around them.
     
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  11. Jan 12, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    no - at this point the fenders come off pretty easy...just don't have a good place to store them - the back of the wagon is already full of parts etc....I only have a couple days to work on stuff before departing for another 3+ weeks so don't want to leave anything too untidy.....
     
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  12. Jan 12, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Wasn't too bad with the cut-off wheel....lower front corners didn't quite have enough clearance for the 4.5" angle grinder so used my smaller air tool - its slow (no enough air flow for continuous use) but only needed an inch or so on each one....have to clean it up a bit with grinder and hopefully that will allow plenty of room for test fitting the sbc and sm465 etc...may still have to do something with the steering....one step at a time...
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  13. Jan 12, 2021
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    If you’re interested in removing the remaining fragments, you can carefully cut through the top and bottom welds, then tap a chisel under it enough to get a pry bar/vice grip on it and pry them off. Welds have very little strength when peeled back on themselves.
     
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  14. Jan 12, 2021
    neohic

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    Looking real good. (y)
     
  15. Jan 12, 2021
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Things like that is why I have a plasma cutter... among other toys.
     
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    Fireball

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    Now all you need is some ratchet straps and 2x4s to get the new motor mounted in there.
     
  17. Jan 12, 2021
    Jw60

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    I believe the current engine (283) only has front mounts that are causing packaging issues. His new engine (350) has side mounts. Also a switch from t-90 to sm465. This will let him move the drivetrain forward as needed.
     
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  18. Jan 27, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Well started the sm465 rebuild with mainshaft replacement....didn't make a lot of progress....
    Got the top off and cane off...
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    Then spent quite awhile just trying to get the rear nut on the mainshaft off...I fully expected red loc-tite to be holding it on. Ended up having to cut into and split the nut off the shaft...
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    Then ran into an issue with trying to get front and rear bearings off...my bearing splitter is not large enough...so maybe a trip to Napa tomorrow morning might solve that and progress can continue...
     
  19. Jan 27, 2021
    shadetreetim

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    Good luck with the rebuild. I have a T18 I need to rebuild to put in my CJ and I'm not looking forward to it.
     
  20. Jan 27, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Making progress...pulled all the bearings:
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    Finally got to an empty case:
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    Mainshaft:
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    Countershaft and input drive shaft:
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    Mainshaft disassembled (minus one bushing)...and comparison with novak shaft (right):
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