Another Tie Rod End Question

Hello all,
In looking closer at my tie rods that i am looking to replace i noticed that one end has a hole in it that is not being used. I researching this part its pretty pricey compared to the regular ends. Is this hole not being used as i have a saginaw set up? What was it for? If i dont need to have that exact part, can i just replace with a regular tie rod or do i need to get that same type with the hole to nowhere in it?

Thanks!!!

 

Check parts #10 and #11

 

That special TRE is for a split tie rod as was used with most jeeps and the Ross steering box / belcrank system.
As stated before you will want 2 each.
ES 140R and ES 62L TRE’s

 

So I can just use a regular end instead? The PO has it on one end attached to right wheel.

 

Can you find one long enough to take up the length? If so then yes.

 

Yeah what Walt said.
So long as the OAL comes out right then a normal TRE will work best.
Also note that the split TRE includes a slight angle.
So proper TRE fitment really depends on the length of the tie rods themselves.
With a custom fit Saginaw the proper length of tie rod can very due to what axle is installed and where the pitman arm is located.
With typical Jeep Saginaw system there are two tie rods. One is properly called the tie rod which travels from knuckle to knuckle. The other is properly called the steering connecting rod rod which travels from box pitman arm to knuckle.
If you do not have a single hole knuckle you will need to use a special split TRE at the passenger knuckle.
To avoid problems we need see pics of how your steer system was assembled.
My previous TRE suggestion was for a double knuckle system which I mistakenly assumed you had.

 

PeteL's diagram shows the stock configuration. If your Jeep have been converted to a one-piece tie rod (from knuckle to knuckle), the tie rod end you show in post#1 is moved to the right knuckle, with a short tie rod connecting that "extra" hole to the bellcrank or Saginaw steering arm. This assumes you don't have a two-hole knuckle on the right side. This special tie rod end is used for those of us who haven't converted to a two-hole knuckle.
-Donny

 

If its been converted from a Ross to a Saginaw it can be used on the right side as the others have said.
I converted my 54-3B to Saginaw 30+ years ago and used it at that location with a single hole knuckle.

 

I do have a two hole, and looking at it i think it may be tough to have enough OAL without it. I guess once i take the other TRE off i will evaluate if i do need to buy that part. Just amazed on the cost over a regular TRE.

 

There were aftermarket "one-piece tie rods" that were intended to be used with the center TRE installed on the right side. If you have one of these, it will be too short to use a regular TRE in each of the holes in the 2 hole knuckle.
-Donny

 

Yeah i found a better resource for one where the price is much more reasonable with a normal TRE. Thanks all...Learn something new every day because of all of you.

 

If you have a two-hole passenger knuckle, whether you have Ross or Saginaw, you can connect knuckle to knuckle and do not need the special TRE. You can use 4 regular ones (two normal thread and two reverse threaded).

 

Thats what my initial plan was but read and was also concerned that there were not long enough and needed that two hole to span the gap. I guess once i get some TREs i can see, but they do not appear long enough on photos at least.

 

you can get tie rods cut to length

 

A D25/27 with double knuckle uses a 38-1/4” long tie rod.
Your shorter rod was for use with a single knuckle system.