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Yep, Bought A '68 Cj5(project)

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Dne007, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. Mar 29, 2020
    Dne007

    Dne007 Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

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    It was a wonderful day here in Cypress ,Tx;) I had all my classic cars out of the garage, and worked on painting the axle housings with the Buick green. It's nice to have the diffs out of the way to make my shop more roomy;)
    Started off the day with all garage door open, but then the heat hit later in the afternoon~ AC back on! ;)
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    Not so sure about the diff cover color, but for now it can stay that way until later on. It'd be easy enough to mask off and paint anytime. I do like the Buick Green a little better than the Detroit green.
    I'm still waiting on the rest of the order from Kaiser which has the u-bolts and many other things.

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    Question please;) There were some shims under the rear axle perches, but were deteriorated~ do I need those back in? The were like wedges.
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  2. Mar 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    The angle that the t-case points down needs to match the angle that pinion points up when weighted (normal vehicle weight, not loaded). You can leave that for later, but make sure you remember to check it again in the end.
     
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    Dne007

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    (y)(y)
     
  4. Mar 30, 2020
    Dne007

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    Sorry about the crazy large picture:oops:, I have the disc brakes/calipers coming soon along with other stuff to get the calipers on meaning I need a master cylinder under the floor, but I just don't want the original boat anchor dual master. I contacted Howard a while back but I'll be darned what I asked him about regarding this. But this looks logical, just need banjo bolts to go with it? I believe Brennan Metcalf told me I need 2 psi valves inline(something like that; I used those on my 59 truck), so this is my plan.
    (I hope Howard is watching)
    Wilwood Remote Tandem Master Cylinder

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  5. Mar 30, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    that's basicly what I have for my disc conversion for my 2A. Why not install swing pedal? Should be nearly a bolt in for your CJ-5.

    Have you looked into Walcks for parts?
     
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    Dne007

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    You know I'd never heard of Walcks~ or I just didn't take the name serious;) I looked on there, but didn't spend much time there.

    I was kind of wanting the engine compartment to be clear of everything but the V6, you know, open the hood and all you see is a beautiful v6. Battery behind the glove box too. If I put the MC/ and master clutch on the firewall, it's just going to clutter the compartment. Then if I were to go that far in installing a swingarm assembly, then I'd have to install a power booster. I just feel a power booster is overkill, nice but overkill.

    However, there would be still be two remote fill reservoirs on the firewall with the Wilwood frame mount under the floor. at least they're small;) I've gone back n forth on the idea of the swingarm and I'm sounding wishy-washy. I did my brother jeep in record time, I don't know why I'm having such a difficult time on my jeep:shrug:
     
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  7. Mar 31, 2020
    Dne007

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    Hi, Gary n I went to get my engine~ looks great. The also "cleaned" the oil pan and intake manifold of which were much better, but I blasted both in my media cabinet.
    The full Tyvec suit worked well for dry sandblasting;) I blasted the transmission and transfer case. The face shield is from Amazon, a flip up shield. The full hoodie is great to keep sand out of my hair, ears, and everywhere for that matter, and it's cool;)

    The pic of the adjustment on the push rod my fingers pointing at, I hate to say it, but the machine shop didn't recognize it as since the lifters are hydraulic and shouldn't have an adjustment~ kind of bothers me. They said I may have to re-adjust the valves if they become noisy.

    Tomorrow, I should be able to paint a bunch of parts including the fresh engine(wrong color, they didn't ask me what color), intake, well, everything that I can paint in a day;)

    Weather looks good for tomorrow, hope to show some good results~
    dne'
     

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  8. Mar 31, 2020
    bigbendhiker

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    Engine looks like new!

    You in your suit look like you're ready for a job at NASA! And they're really close to you.
     
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    Dne007

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    I don't know why I didn't have these a long time ago:shrug::confused:, they're not terribly expensive. I could work for the CDC! (not), but NASA, yeah(y)!! ;)

     
  10. Mar 31, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    question
    why did you choose to use those push rods? Make it adjustable after decking and milling?
     
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    Dne007

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    I didn't do it, they were in the engine already~ apparently it had been running Ok for however long. What do I do about it Jim?

     
  12. Apr 1, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    DEPENDS......not the diaper type:D
    If PO shaved the block and heads, they may of used adjustable pushrods. Did the machine shop give you data regarding milled/decked heads & block? They honestly should of and from there one should of been able to determine if a different length rod is needed. Did the motor have solid lifters? Rhodes lifters? custom cam? If the the motor waas/is within stock specs...maybe slightly milled i would go back to stock rods.

    Afterthought, were the rocker arms dressed? Yeah way to much input:blah: but all can change push rod length.
     
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  13. Apr 1, 2020
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    Sorry, went to bed at my usual 10:00:whistle: Well darn, I knew you were going to ask questions which I have no answers. I just figured the machine shop did what they were going to do:( I guess I'll call them this morning and see what they actually did do. I do know they replaced the cam, lifters, etc. I was laying in bed last night thinking maybe I could adjust the lifters, say like a small block chevy, but through the adjustable push rods? Do each at TDC, tighten the adjust the push rod until it's difficult to spin, then do each cylinder that way. Other thought was to source some stock pushrods, install and see how they fit.
    me of course:bananatool:
     
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    Dne007

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    Rats, after reading these two threads, I don't know if I'm supposed to even have hydraulic lifters. Did a '68 V6 have solid pushrods~ just though that if there were hydraulic lifters, the oil would come up through the push rods. Looks like the engine is going to take some time to figure out. A little dismayed that the machine shop didn't catch the problem.

    Dauntless 225 - pushrods - Comp cam

    Dauntless V6 Push Rods
     
  15. Apr 1, 2020
    mike starck

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    You really don't have a problem at all.The good news is you have the adjustable pushrods.Instaed of having to consider amount of decking block,milling heads,head gasket thickness,milling rocker arm pedestals,buying different length pushrods,etc.just follow your camshaft manufactures recommendation for valve lifter adjustment. They can be adjusted cold one at a time.Comp cams recommends .030" preload after zero lash.This means not compressing the spring inside lifter. On my SMITH Bros adj. pushrods the adjusting screw is 10-32.So 32 divided into 1000 is 031". So zero lash plus 1 turn will give you aprox .030" preload.You could recheck the adjustment after break in although I have not seen a need for that step but maybe in the future. Hope this helps ,mike
    BTW dauntless rockers do not oil thru the pushrods
     
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    Thank you Mike!! yes, helps a great deal(y)!!!;) I did remove the rocker arm assembly on one side just out of curiosity~ yes, solid push rods.
    Does this mean I should adjust the valves like you said now?
     
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    Nothing terribly exciting to report other than having painted more parts:beer:, still waiting on new parts to arrive.

    The cover I had painted already, I removed the exhaust studs; hope that Novack gets back on their feet:)
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    My little paint booth, Im really happy with the Por15 engine paint! sprays very well when thinned with the POR thinner;)
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    I guess that's it for today!
    dne'
     
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    Got parts in!:bananatool:I really forget what I order most of the time so it's a surprise when I open the boxes!

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    This hub, the splines were too large/worn on 3 of them. I'd have to weld them in place, but I'll look for another hub:(
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    Just trying to get setup. Kind of unclear how to setup the end plates on the axle. the shims that will go behind the hubs.
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    I just kind of put it together how it seems logical. I have to drill out the lug holes on the new disc rotors~ just a tad, but I don't have that large of a drill bit.
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    The grease seals I bought weren't the right ones:( So when I'm looking for a hub, I'll look for the correct grease seals.
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    Jeepsterjim

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    Are the lugs to large for the rotor? Or just the lug's splined area to large? If the spline, just chamfer the holes. This is mentioned in Metcalf's instructions.
     
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