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1971 Restoration.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by RedWing, May 5, 2019.

  1. May 23, 2019
    txtoller

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    Looking good!

    As far as the spring shackle bushing, I did it like 65seejayfive posted.
     
  2. May 24, 2019
    RedWing

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    This is Brilliant! Thank you, ill give it a try today! Ill let you know how it goes!
     
  3. May 27, 2019
    RedWing

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    Ok, I tried the threaded rod and socket suggestion and it’s worked great, but I think I may be removing only part of the whole assembly. The bushings in the frame have a steel sleeve that the bolt goes through, followed by the rubber bushing, followed by another steel sleeve. Looking at the diameter of the new bushings, it looks like I’ve got to remove the outer steel bushing (Stuck in the Frame). Do you think it needs to be removed? It just a tad bigger outside dimension than the new rubber bushing.

    Thanks for any suggestions and advice on how to get the outer steel portion of the old bushing out.

    Happy Memorial Day everyone!
     

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  4. May 27, 2019
    65seejayfive

    65seejayfive Blazin’ new trails

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    If I’m looking at your first picture correctly, the only thing left once you have everything out should be the black sleeve that’s actually part of the spring hanger. That sleeve should run from one side to the other. Everything else inside needs to come out. Someone else correct me if I’m wrong or looking at it incorrectly. Happy Memorial Day!

    Red arrow shows what should stay
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  5. May 27, 2019
    RedWing

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    Thanks, that’s what I was thinking, but it won’t budge. I may have to cut it out. Any suggestions?
     
  6. May 27, 2019
    65seejayfive

    65seejayfive Blazin’ new trails

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    Outlined in red is the old shackle bushing that needs to come out, this is where my all thread and sockets came into play. I tried beating, heating, drilling, cutting, even cursing and the only thing that worked was the all thread. I hope I’m understanding you correctly. My new shackle came with new bushings and the sleeves were a TIGHT fit. One end was tapered and with a little grease and with a few good whacks my new bushing was in.
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  7. May 27, 2019
    sterlclan

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    just went through this I used an air chisel to slice the steel sleeve and pushed it out.
     
  8. May 27, 2019
    sgogpn

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    I remove them a little bit differently. I drill the rubber/poly out between the outer sleeve and the center insert with a small drill bit going all around until the center insert taps out. It usually takes the rubber/poly with it at that point. For the outer sleeve I try to start at the top and tap downward enough to make a little space for some PB or WD, tapping and spraying until it lets go.
    I install new bushings by spraying the rubber/poly with lube and tapping it in flush. I then lube the center insert, and press it in with a big C clamp.
    Super easy, and takes no time at all.

    FWIW,
    Mike
     
  9. May 28, 2019
    Framer Mike P

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    It looks to me like there is a crack in the frame just above the weld of the shackle hanger. I would want to address that before installing the new bushings.
     
  10. May 29, 2019
    jeepstar

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    i think the circled part is the crack in question?
    i use a sawzall blade and cut thought half the bushing. then a big drift punch and BFH. i drew a line where i make the cut. make 2 if you have a good blade, it goes quick enough.



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  11. May 30, 2019
    RedWing

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    Glad you noticed that crack area, I’ll take a closer look and weld it up if it’s a crack there. I’ll pick up a saws all blade that will fit through the hole and saw them out.

    The replacement bushings I purchased don’t have the out steel sleeve, they are all urethane I believe. Should I search around for some like the ones I need to cut out?
     
  12. May 30, 2019
    sterlclan

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    The urethane ones will work fine lube them on the outside press em in don’t forget the center sleeve. As a bonus they are easier to remove later.
     
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  13. May 31, 2019
    RedWing

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    I’ll cut the steel out and use the urethane!
     
  14. Jul 27, 2019
    RedWing

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    Good Morning all, it's been a while, but I though i'd post a couple updates on my body reconstruction (destruction maybe). Any way I'm at the point where I need to put the body back on the frame and locate the mounting holes, which will help me get the hat channels in the correct positions.

    Does anyone no if the rear valance on the back of the tub lines up flush with the rear x member of the frame or does the body hang over a tad bit? I circled the area im asking about in one of the photo's. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
     

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  15. Jul 27, 2019
    RedWing

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    Sorry I forgot the picture with the circles .
     

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  16. Aug 4, 2019
    ojgrsoi

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    I would vote flush.

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  17. Aug 11, 2019
    RedWing

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    Thanks, Those are two beautiful Jeeps!
     
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  18. Sep 12, 2019
    RedWing

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    I just about have the body rebuilt, and will post some pics soon. Last items are the cowl supports. I didn’t pay close enough attention to the old ones when I took them out. They were pretty rotted out.

    Any way, can anyone tell me if they go from the front floors all the way to the top of the cowl? My new run from the floor to about an inch shy of the top of the cowl. I just didn’t know if the go all the way to the top of the cowl.
     
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