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Parking lights off with headlights on?

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by schardein, Oct 3, 2004.

  1. Oct 3, 2004
    schardein

    schardein Low Range Therapy

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    I was just reading some old threads and found one that talked about front parking lights.....that the way they were designed from the factory the parking lights went out when the headlights were on? Is this right?

    When I got my Jeep the wiring was so bad that I rewired it almost from scratch, replacing the headlight switch with one from a later CJ, allowing my to incorporate "dimming" gauge lights and courtesy lights under the dash. I never know the deal on the parking lights, so they got wired to be on with the headlights.

    If this is the case (and it appears to be!) then I may finnagle (technical term, do not try this at home) with the wiring a little to make it work "right". I think the later cj switch had a terminal that worked this way, I remember it confusing the heck outta me at the time.
     
  2. Oct 3, 2004
    duke54

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    Yup P lights off when H lights on :hurrican:
     
  3. Oct 3, 2004
    Glenn

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    Ditto on that yup. ;) :hurrican:
     
  4. Oct 3, 2004
    Hippo393

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    I double that there ditto. :)
     
  5. Oct 3, 2004
    schardein

    schardein Low Range Therapy

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    Well well well, where's that "future mods" list....

    Thanks all!
     
  6. Oct 4, 2004
    gte636p

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    hmm... i also wondered what that last lead was for. so all the interior bulbs are wired to the conatasnt 12 when on, parking to the crazy one, and headlights to the double lead?? makes me wonder why put a two filament bulb up there in the first place... it wouldn't be too hard to run everything back through the signal-stat like they did with the breaks to interrupt to make it blink would it? or were the turn signals an option up till late?
     
  7. Oct 4, 2004
    Russell

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    All older cars were that way until th emid 60s I believe. I have a couple cars that operate the exact some way. Essentially the the "park" lights are just that for making the car visible while parked on the side of the road or something. I don't think the idea of "running" park lights came in until the mid 60s. In my 65 Fury III convertable the park lights go out when the head lights come on.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2004
    Glenn

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    The difference in the brightness of the bulbs would be why I would want the 2 filament bulbs. Parking lights not too bright, not annoying and turn signal bright enough to get your attention.
     
  9. Oct 4, 2004
    nickmil

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    When I rewired my '5 I wired the park lights to be on when the headlights are on. I was 18 and didn't know any different. The whole Jeep had butt connectors and different colored wires about every 2 feet so had to rewire and couldn't tell what was stock and what wasn't. I like having them on. No rhyme or reason, just like 'em that way. Nickmil.
     
  10. Oct 4, 2004
    schardein

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    Interesting thread. When I first got the Jeep, my stock orange turn signal lenses were so sun damaged they were nearly white. When I finally came across some replacement lenses, I was so proud of them. It was one of the first "appearance" things I did (after tearing out the green shag carpet). The idea of not having them on all the time would have been unthinkable then. Now, I'm inclined to make operate as closely as I can to stock.
     
  11. Oct 4, 2004
    dauntless_powered

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    my stay on, but that was the way my harness was designed, i guess i could change that, but i think i will leave them. maybe if i revert back to a more original setup i wiould do that also, but as of right now i am s far from original its not even funny
     
  12. Oct 4, 2004
    javracer

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    The PO Yahoo that had mine had taking the original lights out and replaced them with $3.99 reverse lights from AutoZone and wired them into the headlight circuit. No turn signals just on with the headlights also modified to be only high beams, also a little like Nickmil's he used red rope wire it looked like a Twizzler convention under the hood and dash. Even the grounds were red! Well, he did have a good Grote turn signal switch with a dimmer switch built in but not hooked up to anything, the wires were cut under the dash. I punched out the single element sockets out of the reverse light base and installed an 1157 socket, use amber bulbs and now have working color coded light that stay on with the headlight, but work light a newer CJ.
     
  13. Oct 22, 2016
    Rick Whitson

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    Just a note, when I put electric wipers on my Jeep I used a marine light switch, thought that first click would be slow, and second would be high speed, wrong, the first click turned on slow, but didn't go off when I pulled it two the second click. I replaced it with a stock Jeep light switch, 64 or 66, I only had two parts Jeeps, anyway the stock switch had 5 lugs on it, power in, parking lights on, off when pulled out all the way, parking lights on and stay on when pull out all the way, and head lights on when pulled out all the way. So now I pull the switch out one click the slow speed comes on, pull the switch out all the way, slow speed goes off and the high speed comes on. I hope you can figure out what I just said, but what I am trying to say is the old switch can be wired either way, parking lights on, or off when the headlights are on. Good luck anyway.
     
  14. Oct 22, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    Interesting thing is my dash light in the speedo gauge cluster also goes off when headlights go on. I'm assuming something is hooked up wrong.
     
  15. Oct 22, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    The front parking light lenses on my '58 are clear. Should they be orangish color?
     
  16. Oct 22, 2016
    PeteL

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    No. Clear is correct until much later. After the large lenses came in, I believe.
     
  17. Oct 24, 2016
    nickmil

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    Large lenses ('69ish to '75) were clear with an amber bulb. I'm guessing on the start year but somewhere around '65 ish the bullet shaped amber lens started that were plastic and were used until the advent of the large 3 screw lenses. The bullet shaped amber lenses were held on with a chrome spring steel retaining wire kind of like a snap ring.
     
  18. Oct 24, 2016
    PeteL

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    Thanks for the clarification. I've never owned anything but the early clear glass type.

    Mickeykelley has the clear, and that remains correct as I understand things.
     
  19. Oct 26, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    Thanks for input guys. So much to learn. Hope there's not a midterm test?
     
  20. Oct 26, 2016
    nickmil

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    You have it right. His are or should be clear glass with amber bulbs.
     
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