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225 V6 Help!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Kolten, May 18, 2016.

  1. May 18, 2016
    Kolten

    Kolten New Member

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    Quick synopsis: I rebuilt a buick 225 v6 several years ago with my dad before going to college. We never got it running right and I am now in a place where I can start throwing money at it again. The symptoms: The motor runs smooth, but appears to only get warm on the drivers side engine bank (temp at headers on drivers side is hot while passenger side stays cool). I replaced spark plugs and rebuilt the carburetor but still nothing except now I will get some really bad backfire on revving off the passenger side). I am curious what could cause one cylinder bank to run normally while the other does not appear to.

    I read somewhere that this could be a timing issue - but it is my understanding that a timing issue would cause the whole engine to run ruff or have trouble starting, which is not the case. Please help!
     
  2. May 19, 2016
    tarry99

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    Ignition Timing..........Odd fire , perhaps wrong Distributor , rotor ...........
     
  3. May 19, 2016
    1955jeepcj5inabox

    1955jeepcj5inabox New Member

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    Number 1 cylinder should fire on the wide lobe of the distributor.
     
  4. May 19, 2016
    OrangeCJ5

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    I think that one side being hot and other side being cool is a symptom of your distributor being 180* out. I had that on my Jeepster. Best way to find TDC in my experience is the pull the drivers side valve cover and watch the valves to be sure you're on the compression stroke (valves closed I believe)
     
  5. May 19, 2016
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Plugged jet in that side of the carb
     
  6. May 20, 2016
    Kolten

    Kolten New Member

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    To add to the confusion, I was looking at the plug wires tonight, it so happens that no. 6 and no. 2 are reversed. If I put them to the appropriate cylinder the jeep wont start. I am starting to think this is a timing issue for sure.
     
  7. May 21, 2016
    Willys43

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    Plugged carburation caused 1 side not to run on mine, it ran smooth at idle, use a spray bottle with gasoline in it and spray it into the Venturi of the side that is cool. If the carb is plugged on that side when you spray gas into it, it will start running on all six cyl. I had to rebuild mine twice before I found the blockage.
     
  8. May 21, 2016
    colojeepguy

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    Isn't only firing on one bank a symptom of the distributor being installed wrong on an odd fire?
     
  9. May 21, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    Usually that is true as I have found in the past but I can't discount the carb issue as well even though I have never had that problem.
     
  10. May 22, 2016
    Focker

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    You're in that predicament where it could be carb or timing. We've helped many in this same situation. It's almost always a dirty carb even after a 1st cleaning. Clean the carb very thoroughly, remove the power valve in the bottom. I recommend the ultra sonic cleaner from Harbor Freight. Watch the videos at Rochester Carburetor Parts and follow along. Set the mixer screws to spec, check for vacuum leaks and then turn your attention to the distributor.
     
  11. May 22, 2016
    sterlclan

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    I second the hf ultrasonic cleaner that thing rocks.
     
  12. May 22, 2016
    Vanguard

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    I would check this and verify the plug wires are routed correctly. Make sure you have an office distributor cap as well.
     
  13. May 25, 2016
    vnulk

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    I mistakenly installed my distributor on my odd fire such that cylinder 1 was firing on a point on the cam rather than a wide lobe and I had exactly the result you have. Re-installed correctly and all was well.
     
  14. May 25, 2016
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Or an oddfire distributor with the wrong shaft installed.
     
  15. May 30, 2016
    Kolten

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    Problem solved. Loose retaining bolt on the disturber caused it to jump a couple teeth. Amazed it ran as well as it did considering, now it has scary amount of power. One question regarding oiling for the 225. Since it oils down the rail in the heads, how much oil should there be under the valve covers while the engine is running? Mine always has oil but doesnt seem to spray out or be profuse. Good oil pressure up to 60 lbs when revved
     
  16. May 30, 2016
    Beach66Bum

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    That's great that you got it solved (y)
     
  17. May 30, 2016
    jeep2003

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    Mine hardly spits any oil at all. even when revd up. the fan blows it around more than anything
     
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