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SM420/con-diesel

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by p38L5, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Mar 18, 2015
    p38L5

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    SM420/con-diesel (pictures added)

    I have recently acquired an NOS con-diesel SM420 which I would like to use in place of my current SM420. Is there a guide or reference detailing what is required to convert the top plate and any other components? The configuration is Chevy 5.7 to SM420 to Atlas.

    Thanks,

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  2. Mar 19, 2015
    tymbom

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    Pics? I've never heard of a con-diesel SM-420. Is it more than just a standard SM-420? There was two versions of the SM-420 made, an early and late version. I'm not sure where the break was. Maybe someone can chime in... If you can post a pic of what you have it would help a lot. Good luck
     
  3. Mar 19, 2015
    p38L5

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    I don't have any pictures, but I will get some. The con-diesel version of the sm420 was the last version built. They had a remote shifter top, no PTO, and some optimized internal parts. Which ones - I do not know. I believe they were produced into the late 70's, perhaps early 80's - but that's a guess. I will have the serial number checked to confirm the date.

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  4. Mar 19, 2015
    Jeepenstein

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    Huh, new one on me too..
     
  5. Mar 19, 2015
    tymbom

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    What did it it come out of? Try and find the newest normal SM-420 see if the shift tower will interchange. Check out the input shaft and see if it matches as well. Most adapters will require a new output shaft so you can change it around to suit what you need. Since you already have a SM-420, it might be easier to just freshen it up.
     
  6. May 5, 2015
    GreenGhost

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    Novak conversions may have some information on these transmission, I remember reading about them on their site.
     
  7. May 10, 2015
    sgogpn

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    To my knowledge the 420 was manufactured from 47 to 67. 47 to 53 is considered the older and 53 to 67 the newer style. The 47-53 era input shafts had no seal in the bearing retainer to keep the gear lube inside. All they had was some grooves, kind of like the grooves for a speedometer gear, that were supposed to act as slingers if you will to keep the lube slung backwards. Not very effective and the result was a lot of lube soaked clutches. I've never heard of them being manufactured after 67; looking forward to the pics.:)

    Mike
     
  8. May 12, 2015
    p38L5

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    According to the Novack site, the Con-diesel version was made as late as the early 80's. Here are a few photos. Note the remote shifter top. I will be sending this to Novack for inspection, set-up, and a new top cover.[​IMG][/URL][/IMG][​IMG][/URL][/IMG][​IMG][/URL][/IMG][​IMG][/URL][/IMG]
     
  9. May 12, 2015
    p38L5

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    According to Condec, the Con-diesel version of the sm 420 was used in the Gamma-goat
     
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