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Timing Gear Oil Jet

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by red61cj5, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. Jan 11, 2020
    wheelie

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    Are they the same on the L head and the F head?
     
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    As I understand it, some of the older ones have a larger orifice that causes oil starvation problems, 0.07". The fix was to go to 0.04"
     
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    x2. Retains greater pressure for the crank bearings.
     
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    Makes sense. I have an L head part here that I can stick a 1/16" drill bit into the orifice. So 1/16 is like .067 or something.

    Thanks folks. This is good info.
     
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  5. Jan 12, 2020
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    1 divided by 16 = .0625"
     
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  6. Jan 14, 2020
    red61cj5

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    So in the garage this morning I happened to think about the drill bit mentioned above. Took my new oil jet from Willys Jeep Parts in Yuma Arizona (actually looks like a used part, maybe NOS) which was specifically ordered in 0.04 and so noted on the receipt. You guessed it, 1/16 drill bit fit in the hole with room to spare. They sent me a 0.07 part. The ones which caused oil starvation problems. Why would anyone even stock them? Their site lists both sizes, I assumed they would check. Lets see how they handle the return.
     
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  7. Jan 14, 2020
    Glenn

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    I don't understand why they would even list the larger size since it's not correct and is supposed to be replaced with the smaller one.
     
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    Because it's probably a used part.
     
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    Probably they have a crate full of the obsolete ones they bought from a warehouse...
     
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  11. Jan 14, 2020
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    How the hell do you guys ever finish one of these engines?:banghead:
     
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    I built my Fhead in my living room 24 years ago. My wife was not real pleased, but it was better than the transfer case and transmission under the kitchen table. I had similar problems as you. The oil jet was missing. The machine shop who welded the spun bearing journals lost my shims for setting end play, they also lost my special tapered crank bolts.. The most important thing for me was reading the service manual. It pretty much tells you all you need to know.
     
  13. Jan 15, 2020
    Glenn

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    This.
     
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    What, read a book? That is sooo Last Century.

    :whistle:
     
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    Glenn

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    Wouldn't surprise me.
     
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    red61cj5

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    Oh I read the manual, that's how I keep catching the mistakes of people taking my money
     
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    red61cj5

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    Well, I got ahold of the vendor today, and he will send me another one. He said to throw the first one out. At least it wont be in circulation anymore.
     
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    I got lucky and the shop in howell under carquest the guy knew what he was doing. Place looked like it had been a shop since model t's where roaming:D

    We have a shop in lansing we send cyl heads out to that does good work on those. Ill have to eventually pull the fhead on my plow jeep and have a cylinder bored or sleeved.
     
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    Yes, well... I once had a sleeve put in an F-head. After I completed the full rebuild, the sleeve slipped. :steamed:

    That was at the best machine shop in my region. :banghead:
     
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    The old machist I bought my equipment from showed me how to do sleeves. You leave about 3/16" at the bottom uncut so the sleeve inserts till it bottoms out. It will never slip. I done two blocks that way now.
    -Donny
     
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