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jeepfreak81
12-19-2007, 01:51 PM
Is the military paint on an M416 lead based? I may sand mine this winter and paint it to match the jeep when I do the jeep. Trying to find out how many extra precautions I need to take. The trailer is a 1966

$ sink
12-19-2007, 02:33 PM
more than likely...yes

Howard Eisenhauer
12-19-2007, 03:59 PM
Why, Was your M416 built in China?? :twisted:

Alright, seriously, I've always been under the impression that lead is added to paint as a brightener for colours, my guess is since the military seems averse to bright colours that there probably wasn't any point to used lead based paint:roll:. I don't believe that auto paint from that period, some of it quite bright, used lead either.

You might want to ask on G503, I'm sure someone there will know for sure.

H.

Mcruff
12-19-2007, 08:39 PM
This is from Wikipedia:

Lead paint is paint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint) containing lead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead), a heavy metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metals), that is used as pigment, with Lead(II) chromate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%28II%29_chromate) (Pb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead)Cr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium)O4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen), "chrome yellow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_yellow)") and lead(II) carbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%28II%29_carbonate)(Pb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead)C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon)O3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen), "white lead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_lead)") being the most common. Lead is also added to paint to speed drying, increase durability, retain a fresh appearance, and resist moisture which causes corrosion. Paint with significant lead content is still used in industry and by the military. For example, leaded paint is sometimes used to paint roadways and parking lot lines.

48cj2a
12-19-2007, 09:27 PM
You won't find any Military paint pre CARC that doen't have lead in it.

jeepfreak81
12-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Good to know, I will have to get new respirator filters. Thanks guys!

M38a1diesel
12-20-2007, 02:21 AM
Yo jeepfreak, what are you planning on painting your Jeep/Trailer with?

If you plan on going with Gellespie or RAPCO I might consider doing a joint purchase with you to keep the hazmat/shipping costs down.

jeepfreak81
12-20-2007, 08:10 AM
Yo jeepfreak, what are you planning on painting your Jeep/Trailer with?

If you plan on going with Gellespie or RAPCO I might consider doing a joint purchase with you to keep the hazmat/shipping costs down.

What is that?

I was planning on going with Massey Ferguson or Ford Gray tractor paint. I just want a medium gray or so to go with the Navy markings, but yet be easy touch up if I do something to it. Not doing OD on this one -- but the YJ is going to be OD.

w3srl
12-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Some good info on the CARC paint here:

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/medsearch/FocusAreas/carc_paint.shtml

Not too many (if any) M-416 trailers went over to the desert, but CARC paint was used extensively stateside also.

M38a1diesel
12-22-2007, 02:03 AM
I keep forgetting that not all m/v's were painted OD! :roll:

I've flip-flopped back and forth between Olive Drab, USMC Forest Green, and Hunter Green on the Colonel about 10,000,000 times now. :eek: :roll: :rotflmao:

97XJ_95YJ
12-28-2007, 01:26 PM
as far as lead paint they still used it in homes up to 197?

1978