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willysCJ2A
03-06-2004, 03:29 AM
Hi I am just about done rebuilding a buick 225 V6 motor. I just need to find the "fuel pump drive eccentric" and the "distributor drive gear" that are on the camshaft. I have had not luck at finding those part anywhere and once i have those I can start up the motor. If you know some where or someone i could find those parts from I would be very grateful. Thanks for the help!
Stephen

michigan_pinstripes
03-06-2004, 08:44 AM
Welcome aboard! Get ready for a bunch of welcomes and and bunch of "where's the pics?" :D If you would, update your location in your profile and toss in a pic of your Jeep!

Hopefully someone will have the parts you are looking for as I only have a complete unit. Dist parts can be a challenge to find.

Tony T
03-06-2004, 08:51 AM
Look into the holes that mount the fuel pump and distributor to see the eccentric and drive gear, respectively. The eccentric is just another lobe ground onto the camshaft which accentuates a "lifter like" rod that pushes the mech. fuel pump arm in and out. The drive gear is a helical gear machined near the front end of the camshaft. Be careful that when you install the distributor that it also engauges the oil pump dive at the bottom of the distributor shaft, e.g. the cam drives the distributor which in turn drives the oil pump.

oldjeep
03-06-2004, 10:00 AM
If the gear and eccentric of of a 231 will work, I've got one.

jpflat2a
03-06-2004, 01:03 PM
you can try a GM dealer with these part numbers:

1361789 fuel pump eccentric
1361749 for dist drive gear
HTH

dauntless_powered
03-06-2004, 01:09 PM
welcome, got pics?

James P. Enderwies
03-06-2004, 03:42 PM
you can try a GM dealer with these part numbers:

1361789 fuel pump eccentric
1361749 for dist drive gear
HTH

Jim: I've been wondering about this for a while and figured that I'll ask now. In all the cams I've put into Chevys (a lot) the fuel pump eccrentic and dist drive gear were machined in, and part and parcel of, the cam itself. Like Tony T said. They were not separate parts that mounted on the cam. Are the :v6: different in this respect? :?

James P. Enderwies
03-06-2004, 03:46 PM
willysCJ2A: Forgot my manners. :oops: Welcome from Havasu. Let us know where you hail from. As you can probably tell, we all have questions, and someone always has an answer. :)

willysCJ2A
03-06-2004, 05:37 PM
You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the responses. Are those parts numbers for a 225? that just seem to easy :shock: if so that would make things so much easier and relieve the stress of having to find it. Also I need to know how to get a picture up for me. Could someone tell me how to do that. Thanks for all you help. This site is outstanding!

James P. Enderwies
03-06-2004, 05:49 PM
willysCJ2A: Well, well. I just moved here 2 1/2 years ago from Encino. 1/4 mi N of Ventura behind Encino Hospital. I go back about 4 times a year for family visits and stay with my former next door neighbor. Used to work on Chalk Hill above Taft.

About pics, read Forum Help and Testing.

BlueFlu
03-06-2004, 05:50 PM
Welcome fom TN. These guys like pics! Some one with a better grasp of it is done will chime in soon I'm sure.

willysCJ2A
03-06-2004, 05:55 PM
oldjeep, I am looking into seeing if those part for the 231 will work. If so I am very interested if I cannot get the parts from the parts # from the GM dealer.

oldjeep
03-06-2004, 06:06 PM
oldjeep, I am looking into seeing if those part for the 231 will work. If so I am very interested if I cannot get the parts from the parts # from the GM dealer.

I just took a look at it and they won't. On the 231 parts I have 1985 231, the gear is part of the timing gear which bolts to the camshaft with 2 bolts. It is very different than the 225 piece. Maybe on an older 231 they are the same, but definitly not on the one i have

Sorry, but if you put a post in the wanted section, I'll bet someone can help you out.

willysCJ2A
03-06-2004, 06:35 PM
jpflat2a, I called buick and they said 1361789 was a good # but 1361749 was a bad # got any ideas?

Mcruff
03-06-2004, 06:54 PM
Welcome to the board Stephen.
First thing is you can use the eccentric and drive gear from a 231 odd fire but the even fire had the gear machined on the cam.
You should be able to call Leon Rosser Jeep in Bessemer, Alabama, if he doesn't have any in stock he should be able to get one or tell you where you can get one. You can also check TA Performance they are Buick specialists and will have them in stock I'm sure. They are located on the web, just type in TA performance and check them out.

jpflat2a
03-07-2004, 01:35 AM
Not surprising that the one number might be discontinued. Other members here have other great ideas. Just keep looking and trying; you will come up with them sooner or later.

willysCJ2A
03-07-2004, 04:02 AM
James P. Enderwies, Hey Jim, I am very close to where you used to live. I am actually moving up to Oregon this summer. Havasu is also a really nice place to. Thanks for the help!

yancy
03-07-2004, 10:36 PM
:v6: JUST USE ELECT PUMP

willysCJ2A
03-07-2004, 10:46 PM
yancy, Hey whatis Elect Pump? What does that do diffrent?

sparky
03-07-2004, 10:48 PM
Electric fuel pump.

Do a search, plenty of info here on 'em.

yancy
03-07-2004, 10:56 PM
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET THE BLOCKOFF PLATE AND YOU ARE IN BISSNESS :D

jeepngem
03-07-2004, 11:10 PM
willysCJ2A: Welcome from Riverside, too bad the electric fuel pump can't solve your problem....that would be too easy...the part number not available is the drive gear for the dist. Have to keep your eyes open to find one. We'll do the same for you.
Jim: Just to answer your question....Yes the 225 is seperate parts and not part of the cam. Good Luck!!Glenn

yancy
03-07-2004, 11:23 PM
GO TO SUMMETT ON THE DIS GEAR I HAVE 20 V6S AND A FEW 231 ODDFIRES MAY BE I CAN HELP THAKE A PICK AND SEND IT TO ME AND I WILL MAKE YOU A CHEEP DEAL ANY ONE THAT KEEPS THE V6S ARE MY KIND OF FOLKS I HAVE ONE THAT DYNOS OUT AT 315 HP ITS A SCREAMER YANCY IN MT :v6: :flag:

jpflat2a
03-07-2004, 11:36 PM
the other problem is I don't think you can just go without it; you need both for proper spacing at the front of the cam

willysCJ2A
03-08-2004, 12:44 AM
Thanks guys for all your help! For some reason when i called another GM deal and gave them the parts # they had them both they had to be special ordered. So I am hoping this parts from the deal work! I will let you know how it works out.

James P. Enderwies
03-08-2004, 12:47 AM
jeepngem: Thanks. Never heard of that before I got my :v6: They were always 1 item. Well, got one now! :rotflmao:

willysCJ2A
03-08-2004, 12:53 AM
yancy, Thanks Yancey for the info about the parts I will let you know if I might need something you have! Were in Montana do you live. I went on a fly fishing trip last summer with my dad and had an awesome time!

JAB
03-09-2004, 02:58 AM
Hi I am just about done rebuilding a buick 225 V6 motor. I just need to find the "fuel pump drive eccentric" and the "distributor drive gear" that are on the camshaft. I have had not luck at finding those part anywhere and once i have those I can start up the motor. If you know some where or someone i could find those parts from I would be very grateful. Thanks for the help!
Stephen

I'm pretty sure that all of the dist. drive gears are the same. I've gone from odd fire to even fire & 225 to 231 & back too many times to count. I've gone from even fire HEI to odd fire HEI by changing the cap & a couple of parts in the dist. & back again as needed. In all these cases I've kept the same distributor, just built it for either even or odd fire, depending on which block I was able to get cheap. (I seem to "dunk" a lot of motors & ruin the bearings :evil: & crank) As far as the cam eccentric, yes, the later ones are part of the camshaft, only the early ones are separate. Double check exactly what you need & if you can stand used stuff with some scuff marks & minor wear I think I can help you. BTW, when you put that gear on the dist. you're supposed to have a certain amount of endplay, check the manual. I always have too much & need to shim it. I've stacked shims from other distributors but I don't think I have any extra's of those.

I have two used gears in the boxes that new ones came in. The AMC box is numbered 1# 1950570 & the GM box is 1# 1892082. I have another GM box with a stickytape label with the AMC number on it & the AMC number also printed on the GM box. Go figure. I don't have a number for the eccentric, but I do have one for cheap. Do you have the oil slinger & cam bolt? What about the chain tensioner & rubbing block? Those seem to be hard to find. Depending on the year you may need the spring & plastic button that goes the end of the cam. I think I gave up on that part & run without it. Where are you looking for parts? I usually get this type of stuff from a GM dealer or NAPA. I stay away from discount sources for internal stuff, it's not worth the risk, but so far I haven't had much trouble finding most of this stuff.

JAB
03-09-2004, 03:01 AM
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET THE BLOCKOFF PLATE AND YOU ARE IN BISSNESS :D

No, you'll still need the fuelpump eccentric, or somthing just as thick, to locate the dist. drive gear properly. Also, if you use some type of spacer it will have to have a keyway cut into it because the dist. gear & the FP eccentric share the key.

juffer
08-03-2007, 04:49 PM
Do you need this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-JEEPSTER-CJ5-BUICK-V6-FUEL-PUMP-ECCENTRIC-NOS-ITEM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33555QQihZ014QQite mZ330151576919QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Mcruff
08-03-2007, 05:48 PM
Talk about resurrecting the dead, that post is more than 3 years old.