View Full Version : hauling my 73 cj-5
jeepin jimmy
07-24-2005, 10:48 AM
I am new to jeep world, and I juat bought a 73 cj-5 and need to haul it to the mountains.I tow a camp trailer when we go camping.I am wondering if any one has built a rack to haul their cj on a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup. I have thought about a flat bed but dont really like them on a daily driver. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Old Bill
07-24-2005, 11:09 AM
I am new to jeep world, and I juat bought a 73 cj-5 and need to haul it to the mountains.I tow a camp trailer when we go camping.I am wondering if any one has built a rack to haul their cj on a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup. I have thought about a flat bed but dont really like them on a daily driver. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not an engineer, nor do I play one on TV, but I *believe* most Jeeps are around 2200+ lbs. A bit more than a 3/4 ton truck should handle, and might be interesting on a one ton. Then you have that whole center of gravity thing....I'll go out on a limb and say that it would be better to explore other options before proceeding. For example, selling the camp trailer, buying a camper, and towing the Jeep behind you comes to mind....
Glenn
07-24-2005, 12:49 PM
What you are proposing would end up being unbalanced on the pickup and way too top heavy and unstable. The total length would be way too long and I'm afraid would put too much weight on the rear end of the truck rather than distributing it between the front and rear axles. I'd actually considered the same thing to retrieve a flatfender but decided it wouldn't work.
timgr
07-24-2005, 01:16 PM
Camp trailer, like a house trailer or a little trailer for your gear? Depending on how much stuff you haul along, you could put the gear in the Jeep and tow that. It's pretty common to flat-tow (using a tow bar) a CJ behind a pickup-truck sized vehicle.
jeepin jimmy
07-24-2005, 09:37 PM
Thanks guys for the input, as for selling the camp trailer and buying a camper is not an option for my family at this time as due to the fact that my 3yr old is in a wheelchair,and isnt enough room for him when the weather isnt at its best. I should actually just buy a motorhome and haul the jeep on a car trailer but thats not in my budget at this time. again thanks for the input guys.
Mark W.
07-24-2005, 11:33 PM
You might look into trading your camp trailer for what is called a toy hauler. It is a style of camp trailer with basically a garage in the back. I'm not sure of the ability of this style of trailer to haul something as large and heavy as a Jeep. But you could check out the next RV show in your area. Or just call around to dealers.
This way you would have your living space in the front half and a fold down door ramp in the back that would allow you to carry your jeep along.
My Neighbors son has one he uses to haul a large Quad and 3-4 dirt bikes. Quite the setup.
And once the jeep is out of the "garage" area the area can be setup with beds for kids and even tables for activities. Your son in the chiar would have plenty of open room so as to not limit his activities.
Hope this helps.
Mark W.
07-24-2005, 11:36 PM
Just as an example here are a few samples of Toy haulers a couple say they can haul a Dune Buggy so hauling a jeep looks like a possiblity.
http://www.travelandusa.com/toy_haulers.htm
Old Bill
07-24-2005, 11:38 PM
Mark has a good idea with the toy hauler. My parents have one, and they did haul the Jeep in it. Granted, it's large, and you'll need a large tow vehicle, but it does solve the problem....
66cj5
07-26-2005, 12:43 AM
seen a few @ Attica. the ones that had the jeeps/rock buggies in them are the larger 3 axle ones or the cargo trailer conversions.
as to the rack, you would need a 1.5 ton truck as the bare min. 2-3 ton would be better. than a ramp affair could hold the jeep and still have weight carring ability left.
hudsonhawk
07-26-2005, 08:30 AM
The cheapest toy box I have seen that can handle a Jeep is the Forest River Work and Play.
http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/default22.asp?page=worknp&choice=brochure&nav=rec
Not a bad deal for $25K
jeepin jimmy
07-26-2005, 09:56 PM
Thanks everyone for the Ideas I actually have looked at the toy haulers but I am trying to get by with what i have right now I think it is a great way to haul everything to the hills in the toy haulers. I have ponderd the last couple of days and (mabey), I will build a 9' falt bed to go on my superduty f-250, but lots of lights and a nice looking set of stacks and paint it red. (ill love it) i hope, any way thanks again for the ideas guys.
w3srl
07-27-2005, 01:11 AM
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but your F-250 is only rated as a 3/4 ton, and possibly a 1-ton truck. With the Jeep having a GVW of around 3500#, you are going to be at least 1000# overweight, and you'll be carrying that weight up awfully high. It's also going to be difficult to stop all that weight with the F-250's brakes. If you ever pile it up, your insurance co. may give you trouble on the claim.
My $ .02 worth. I wouldn't do it.
Glenn
07-27-2005, 08:23 PM
You'd better measure your Jeep and see where all the weight is gonna be on the truck. Then think about how much the GVW is going to be also, you're going to be way over. Then ask yourself if you really think it'll work.
jhuey
07-29-2005, 09:18 PM
I saw a interesting set up. A utility/car style double axle trailer with a tent trailer mounted sideways forward (so when the tent beds are folded out they go to the sides) the access door opened to the deck of the trailer (nice deck, and with ramps easy handicap access). The main deck of the trailer aft of the tent trailer was for car hauling, toys etc. It looked like an inexpensive toy hauler. Saw it in a RV Trader. I think someone could fab up a setup like that with a little ingenuity.
Joe
Mark W.
07-30-2005, 07:32 PM
Actually most Jeeps weigh about 2500-2700lbs
GVW stands for Gross Vehicle Weight that means the vehicle and all it can carry. Not what the vehicle weighs. I drive a 98,000 GVW dump truck and trailer every day. But empty the truck and trailer only weigh about 38,000lbs. Giving me a 60,000lb load or just under 30tons to be legal with a little cushion.
A 2006 Ford F250 Super Duty like the truck being talked about has aGVW of 8800lbs and a legal load of. approx. 3200lbs
Heck my 1966 F250 had a GVW of 7700lbs and a legal load of 2700lbs. And I carried 3000lbs of stuff in it all the time doing landscape work NO problems. A few time I hauled around 4000 lbs it rode real nice and had no problem with Hwy speeds or stopping.
If he builds one with a flat bed then he will have no more problem hauling a jeep on it then the guys who tow cars on Jartran beds. Actually a lot less since the jeep will weigh less then most cars and be quite a bit shorter.
I doubt a CJ5 on the back of a flat bed is any more top heavy then one of those huge campers guys drag around. In fact I just checked and some of those campers reach 3500lbs way more then a little jeep.
timgr
07-30-2005, 08:23 PM
Not to be picky, but the right designation is GVW and GVWR - the weight and the weight rating. The GVWR - GVW = maximum payload.
Tumbleweed
07-31-2005, 09:55 AM
If you add in the weight of the framework and flatbed, you will be pushing the limits. That is without considering trailer tongue weight, any cargo weight other than the Jeep, and the combined weight of the truck, Jeep, and trailer, with cargo.
And it still won't stop worth a hoot.
66cj5
07-31-2005, 06:06 PM
better of starting w/2 ton truck.
dvmbrad
07-31-2005, 10:09 PM
Several years ago I put my '64 CJ5 on the back of a GMC 3/4 ton with a regular bed (it actually fit in the back). I test drove it and that was enough to convince me to get it off. The ride was scary, and the stopping power was about absent. I ended up towing the Jeep. I'd go with a heavy rated truck, especially since there's the added weight of a trailer. Like the rest, just my 2cents
DanStew
07-31-2005, 10:27 PM
I would suggest what i have been doing. Get a slide in camper for the rear of your truck and then flat tow the jeep, or get a traielr for it. It will be inconvenient thoguh for your son to get into, but you may have help him in. This way you can have the camper adn jeep. the campers range in sizes. i got a smaller one but it worked fine with 2 people, but since my family grew i am selling ti and may get a larger one when i get a ne wtruck, since mine is only a 6 foot bed :(
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